Paul I've done dozens of MSWs, and they really are a PITA. They disrupt the users quite extensively.
I'm not sure I've ever done a MSW with other recipient containers, but I'm pretty sure you get the recipient containers preserved, and moved to the new site - there's no way to instruct the utility to move the mailboxes to a different container when you run it. MS do insist that a recreation of all MAPI profiles is necessary, but it isn't. Most users will work quite happily if you simply remove and re-enter the server name in the Exchange Server service in the profile, and redo the Checknames. [This is necessary because although the server name doesn't change, the profile still 'sees' the server at its old pre-move location, and can't re-resolve it unless you remove the name and add it again - then it resolves against the updated Dir and all is well]. You could craft a few screenshots on how to do this, and send them out to people in advance - make sure they know to print these instructions out, so that they can self-correct their own profiles after the move happens. We've done at least two moves with fairly large user populations on that approach, and around 70-80% of users seems to manage to do this okay. MSW breaks inbox rules, and things like permissions and delegate access. So the bog-standard joe user will probably be okay, the people that make all the noise post-MSW are the secretary-type power users with delegates and rules that end up screwed. So you might want to audit their setup in advance so that it can more easily be recreated. Laptop (offline) users too are pretty screwed by MSW, they need to have their mailbox synched in advance of the move AND THEN NOT DO ANY MORE OFFLINE WORK. Best for a laptop user to then have a new profile after the MSW, and recreate the offline synch/ost file. Let me know if you need any more advice. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Hutchings Sent: 17 January 2006 20:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 5.5 Move Server Wizard Briefly, a lot to read and little time today - I have a hell of a lot to read :-) I recall it suggested they need re-creating, or if you're lucky just to be re-validated and the Outlook bar reset. That's why I'm torn between the 2003 consolidation features and the 5.5 MSW - for a small single server like ours with some mailboxes and no connectors the MSW seems a simple option to get the sites merged, but there's so little practical info that I can find about it outside of the readme - you'd think Microsoft made it and nobody ever used it. Paul -- Paul Hutchings Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd. Tel: 44 (0)24 7635 5378, Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Missy Koslosky > Sent: 17 January 2006 19:35 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: 5.5 Move Server Wizard > > Have you looked at the Solution Accelerator? there's a bit > in there about > the client profiles. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:31 AM > Subject: RE: 5.5 Move Server Wizard > > > Thanks Missy. Don't get me wrong here I'm always grateful > for good advice, > but I suspect I shall stay on the over cautious side and keep > their mail > local. > > I'll look into the cross-site mailbox move method. So long > as it will pull > stuff from a 5.5 server in one site to a 2003 server in > another site that > should do the trick. > > If I do it that way I'll have to visit at some point so I can > take care of > any Outlook Profile issues at the same time. > > thanks, > Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Missy Koslosky > > Sent: 17 January 2006 18:23 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Re: 5.5 Move Server Wizard > > > > Seriously, 2mbps for 35 users is totally enough bandwidth. I > > think you're > > being overly cautious here. > > > > You would not be using the Move Server Wizard if you followed > > my suggestion. > > That's a PITA way to do this. MUCH simpler to do the > > cross-site mailbox > > moves. This can be fairly simple, really. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:36 AM > > Subject: RE: 5.5 Move Server Wizard > > > > > > There's only around 35 mailboxes on it, private store is > around 6.5gb. > > > > I take the point about cached mode Outlook 2003 and running > > things over the > > WAN, but it's only a 2mbps links. IMHO as they already have > > good server > > hardware the cost of an Exchange 2003 Server license isn't > > huge, so I'd want > > to keep their mail local to them. > > > > I'd appreciate any advice on the best plan of attack on how > > to deal with > > their site. > > > > I figured it made sense to have a single site from an admin > > POV - as you say > > maybe I should think "mailboxes" more than "sites". I guess > > another option > > would be to put a temporary 2003 server in there as a member > > of our main > > site, use the cross-site mailbox utils to move mailboxes to > > that server, > > then reinstall current server/site into the main site - end > > result single > > site? > > > > How transparent does Exchange 2003 make a cross-site mailbox > > move though? > > > > TBH my main concern with the move server wizard is less to do > > with moving > > the server and more to do with if everyone will need their > > Outlook profile > > rebuilding and the "what happens with recipient containers" issue. > > > > thanks, > > Paul > > -- > > Paul Hutchings > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd. > > Tel: 44 (0)24 7635 5378, Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378 > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf Of Missy Koslosky > > > Sent: 17 January 2006 17:09 > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: Re: 5.5 Move Server Wizard > > > > > > E2K3 SP1 allows for cross-site mailbox moves, which makes > > the upgrade > > > easier. Don't think on a scale of servers, think on a scale > > > of mailboxes as > > > object here. > > > > > > There's no need to move the 5.5 server - how many users are > > > on that server? > > > Unless you answer "500" or more, I'd consolidate to one > > > server -- of course, > > > take this with a grain of salt, as I know little about the > > > number of folks > > > in your organization. But there's definitely another option > > > here than the > > > one you're presenting, and it's worth thinking about. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Paul Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:29 AM > > > Subject: RE: 5.5 Move Server Wizard > > > > > > > > > Hmm thanks for that, that's interesting. The way I > > understood it 2003 > > > didn't come with anything to let you move a server like > > that, just to > > > move/consolidate mailboxes? > > > > > > At some point in the future we will be upgrading them to > > > 2003, it's just not > > > a priority - I understood that however you choose to do > > > things, once you > > > have a 2003 server in a site you can't move a 5.5 server into > > > that site? > > > > > > I'm downloading that tool as I speak so I'll see what that offers. > > > > > > thanks, > > > Paul > > > -- > > > Paul Hutchings > > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd. > > > Tel: 44 (0)24 7635 5378, Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378 > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > Behalf Of Missy Koslosky > > > > Sent: 16 January 2006 20:20 > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: Re: 5.5 Move Server Wizard > > > > > > > > It's actually easier to get Exchange 2003 installed and then > > > > flatten the > > > > organization - E2K3 SP1 has some nice site and server > > > > consolidation tools. > > > > The Solution Accelerator for Exchange Consolidation and > Migration > > > > (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/ucs/ecm/saecm/de > > > > fault.mspx) > > > > has a lot of information about this. > > > > > > > > Missy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Paul Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:59 AM > > > > Subject: 5.5 Move Server Wizard > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a 5.5 organization consisting of 2 sites. > > > > > > > > The main site is running 5.5 and I'm about to order the > > hardware for > > > > Exchange 2003. > > > > > > > > The smaller site is a remote office, the single server down > > > there is a > > > > Windows 2000 domain controller running 5.5 SP4 with 35 > > > > mailboxes on it, for > > > > the moment there's no plan to migrate them to 2003 but we > > > might do so. > > > > > > > > The only connectors in the remote site are the directory > > replication > > > > connector and the site connector, and being the only server > > > > it's both the > > > > first and last server in the site. > > > > > > > > Before I look at installing the ADC and moving the main site > > > > to Exchange > > > > 2003 I'd like to flatten things so that I only have a single > > > > Exchange 5.5 > > > > site - the only reason for having the two 5.5 sites was > to control > > > > replication/message traffic. All administration is handled > > > > by me, so I > > > > believe what I should have before is a single 5.5 site > > > which will then > > > > become a single Administrative Group with 2 routing groups > > > *if* I find > > > > traffic is a problem. > > > > > > > > From the documentation, it looks pretty straightforward: > > > > > > > > Replicate public folders from that site to ours > > > > Remove the event service > > > > Remove the directory/site connectors > > > > Run the wizard > > > > Recreate all users Outlook Profiles > > > > > > > > What I'm not sure of if is firstly if there's anything to be > > > > aware of that > > > > the documentation doesn't cover? > > > > > > > > Secondly, we have recipient containers in both sites (from > > > before the > > > > previous admins RTFM) and the documentation doesn't seem to > > > cover what > > > > happens with these - if they get created in the destination > > > > site, or if they > > > > get moved into a default container in the 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