Yes, day to day, week to week, month to month, year to year, no ESEUtil for maintenance.
Exchange is treated and designed to run as a Utility level service. Meaning that it is expected to run 356/24/7 and no down time like you would expect from your Power, Phone, water, and sewage utilities. Exchange is design to take care of itself with online maintenance that requires no down time. --Kevinm WLKMMAS http://www.wlkmmas.org Wonder what To get me cuz you love me? This link will help http://www.hedonists.ca/index.php/gift-wish-list -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Blevins Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: GOExchange vs ESEUTIL etc So you're saying for day-to-day maintenance you shouldn't use eseutil, not that there are NO uses for eseutil under any circumstances, right? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevinm Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: GOExchange vs ESEUTIL etc For maintenance, there is no reason to take your store offline, and do any maintenance. --Kevinm WLKMMAS http://www.wlkmmas.org Wonder what To get me cuz you love me? This link will help http://www.hedonists.ca/index.php/gift-wish-list -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evan Mann Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: GOExchange vs ESEUTIL etc So you're telling people to never take their stores offline and use eseutil? Or are you advising not to do certain types of offline maintenance? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevinm Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: GOExchange vs ESEUTIL etc Offline maintenance should not be something that you do to an exchange server, ever. I am getting close to publishing an official manual for ESEUtil. In the conceptual topics about each mode, there is a section that covers what not to do. Offline maintenance is mentioned in this document, as a no, no. Go exchange in my mind is the same as phone based toner salesman, and the guys who come door to door and try to sell you 30,000$ of windows that would cost you 3,000$ at Lowes, but the installation is somehow free, and that price is only good right now. --Kevinm WLKMMAS http://www.wlkmmas.org Wonder what To get me cuz you love me? This link will help http://www.hedonists.ca/index.php/gift-wish-list -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Blevins Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: GOExchange vs ESEUTIL etc There's a section about scheduled maintenance tasks in Exchange. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: GOExchange vs ESEUTIL etc I just checked the article, but I couldn't find anything about online maintenance in there. Did I miss something? Alex Alborzfard -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Blevins Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: GOExchange vs ESEUTIL etc Yes, ESM. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/guides/OperationsG uide/41bddd59-d365-4f86-b644-fa1b1efcb2db.mspx -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: GOExchange vs ESEUTIL etc I couldn't find this Event ID on either Application or System logs. How often does EXCH do this and can it be modified, if so how: thru registry change or ESM? Alex Alborzfard -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Blevins Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: GOExchange vs ESEUTIL etc When Online Maintenance finishes it pops Event ID 1221 and it tells you in this event how much whitespace you've got. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: GOExchange vs ESEUTIL etc How can one determine what % of database is whitespace? Is there an Exchange counter for this? Alex Alborzfard -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Blevins Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: GOExchange vs ESEUTIL etc Whitespace is not a problem, and as a matter of fact, its recommended that your databases have around a 20% section of whitespace. The reason for this is that whitespace can be written to in a much more efficient way than the option of re-adding on-disk space to the database for each write. You're right on the money regarding offline defrags. The only time you really need to do this is when a large number of mailboxes have been deleted or moved, and your whitespace is approaching 40-50 percent of your total DB size. I'd say you're in great shape on that DB, and no, whitespace will NOT cause missing emails/unusual behavior etc. This would be caused by table or page corruption in a database, which shouldn't happen in Ex2003 unless there are disk issues. Good luck! :-) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Gowen Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: GOExchange vs ESEUTIL etc I've been looking at GOExchange because of the boasts that the manufacturers make about it and the doom scenario they put out. It seems that the product uses ESEUTIL and ISINTEG on a regular basis to keep white-space at bay, amongst other things. But my research of best practice tells me that doing offline database maintenance is not required unless there's a major change, such as the removal of a lot of mailboxes. I haven't ever heard of the performance issues in Exchange that they talk about: unusual behaviour, lost messages, etc unless there's an underlying hardware problem. I've had a 1Gb mailbox removed as a user has left the organisation. I have 1378Mb of free space after online defragmentation, and a priv1.edb of 18,714,024 bytes. 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