Typical scenario:

1) Store at 5GB (5GB disk space)
2) 0.5GB of emails come in over the day increasing store 5.5GB (5.5GB
disk space)
3) Following day people clean out there inbox and deleted items folders
(1GB of items go in dumpster retention == 1 day) (4.5GB in store used by
email , 1GB in dumpster, 5.5Gb disk space)
4) next day dumspter dumps the deleted items (4.5GB in store used by
email 1GB of white space, 5.5GB disk space)
5) next day 0.5GB of emails come in over the day increasing store 5.0GB
(5.5GB disk space)

This is typical Database behaviour (Oracle, SQL etc)

It is memory that exchange gobbles up by default

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Chinnery, Paul
Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2006 00:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv grows 4 gig in 4 hours

But, if Exchange needs more space, shouldn't it use up the actual drive
space until such time as it hits it's store limit?  

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Webb,
Andy
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv grows 4 gig in 4 hours


The actual drive space is completely irrelevant.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Chinnery, Paul
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv grows 4 gig in 4 hours

I found something rather interesting.  As a temporary measure, I dropped
retention time down to 2 days.  Looking thru the event log entries, this
morning's dumpster showed 0 bytes.  Adding up all the user's mailboxes,
I get 8.4 gig.  Log entry said there is 2.3 gig available which means I
should have another 5.3 free; which I don't according to Exchange.
Today, I checked the actual drive space on the Exchange store partition.
Total space = 18.9 with 6.51 free so only 11.39 is used.  
Which, in my Monday morning-muddled mind, has me wondering why Exchange
isn't using the available drive space.  It's almost like it's saying "I
can't give you any more free space because there's none left on the
partition."  

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Webb,
Andy
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv grows 4 gig in 4 hours


The initial growth was likely due to a) a mail loop, b) an old Outlook
client or Mac client trying to send a message over the send limit, c)
something else similar.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean
Cunningham
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv grows 4 gig in 4 hours

Thanks Andy, your explanation, then means if the store file grows 4GB in
4 hours then the suggestion that the dumpster as the cause of the 4GB
growth is not correct, as pointers are moved within the store file and
there is no deletion until the expiry time.

What Ed and you are saying that if in system manager you see mailboxes
totaling 10GB, the dumpster may be the difference between what you see
in the system manager and the physical size of the store file, depending
on what your retention policy is. Which is valid, but does not explain
the growth originally mentioned?

Something else is causing the growth.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb,
Andy
Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 13:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv grows 4 gig in 4 hours

It moves the pointers in the store yes, but it means the data is in the
store for X days and it doesn't show up in the user's mailbox size
report.  So it appears to be "missing".  There's an event logged as part
of mailbox cleanup that says how much data is in the dumpster and how
much is eligible to be cleaned up.  The store space isn't "white" until
the DIR time expires, the online defrag runs, and possibly a backup is
run.


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