THANKYOU!
Will subscribe to other group.
# 3 was the one I was thinking of.
But with the caveat of #2a it looks like we are stuck with it this config for now.



From: "Howard Rappaport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Exchange as DC
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:37:36 -0400

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You might want to check the archives there too :)

<devin>
You can do Active Directory and Exchange on one server; it's a
Microsoft-supported configuration (otherwise, Small Business Server
would be a lot more exciting).

Having said that, most Exchange experts I know strongly recommend
against it for the following reasons:

1) Performance -- Exchange wants to use a lot of memory to cache mailbox
data. AD wants to use memory. Neither one will be very happy on a shared
box. And most shared boxes don't have a robust disk subsystem, so
they've got disk contention issues as well.

2) Shutdown issues -- this is a minor one, but Exchange servers need to
talk to AD a lot. When you shut down a single-server configuration, the
AD services shut down before the Exchange services -- and they'll hang
for approximately 10 minutes before they timeout and let shutdown
proceed. It's a simple fix -- shut down the Exchange services manually
before shutting down/rebooting the server -- but if you forget, you get
to wait.

3) Redundancy -- Exchange on a domain controller will *only* use that
domain controller for AD lookups, even if you have other domain
controllers/global catalog servers in your network.

4) Backup/restore -- this is the big one. It is MUCH harder to rebuild a
combined server from backups than it is to rebuild a stand-alone DC or
Exchange server (or even both at the same time). Lots more edge cases,
lots more room for tiny errors that give you no options but to flatten
it and start over from scratch (and lose all your data).

Boxes are cheap these days. You can get white-box PCs to be your domain
controller, and at today's prices, you can even get two of them for
redundancy without spending an arm and a leg. You will probably, in the
long run, have far fewer problems by splitting Exchange and AD onto
separate servers.
</devin>
<ed>
Performance is only an issue when servers are rather heavily loaded, but
normally people looking to combine Exchange with a domain controller won't
have a lot of users on the server.

Reasons not to install Exchange Server on a domain controller include (1, 3,
and 5 duplicate Devin's reasons):

1. Performing a disaster recovery on a DC is quite a bit more difficult than
on a member server.

2. Once you make the decision to install Exchange on a domain controller,
you cannot demote it later.

3. Exchange 2003 directory services won't fail over to other domain
controllers when it is installed on a domain controller.

4. Exchange admins must have log on locally rights to the Exchange server,
so when Exchange is on a domain controller they must have that right in the
entire domain.

5. Exchange takes longer to shut down when installed on a domain controller.

6. Use the /3GB switch can cause Exchange to monopolize the memory on the
domain controller.

7. All services run under the LocalSystem context, so any attacker gaining
access to Active Directory will also have access to Exchange.
</ed>

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R
Pickens
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange as DC

Hello everyone.
Long story short, new job, new challenges.
Ex 2003 enterprise.
Exchange server here is also a domain controller.
I remember reading somewhere that it was not the best idea to do that.
Does anyone have pros or cons on this?
thank you for you time
Rachel

(am also parsing the archives hereits been discussed.

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