Pretty well said. It will be hard to distinquish between a 'business' email
and a 'private' email.
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 5:56 AM
Subject: RE: Disclaimers :(
You have hit the nail on the head - it is down to interpretation.
Some could say that because the email comes from my business domain and
has my business name on the signature that it is a business letter,
possibly because I have not said otherwise.
While it is fine for me to decide what is and is not a business letter -
do you want to other staff members to make that decision? I doubt it, so
the play it safe route is to treat all emails that are coming out of the
site as business letters and attach a disclaimer with the relevant
information to everything.
I personally dislike disclaimers, but it would appear that they are now
being forced on to all business due to this legislation change.
Simon.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Randal, Phil
Sent: 19 January 2007 08:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disclaimers :(
So your emails here are business letters?
We have this nonsense every time some silly regulation comes into force.
There are many companies who see over-strict interpretation as a way of
making themselves a mint in consultancy fee and sales of add-on
"compliance" products.
It's a sad sad world.
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon
Butler
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disclaimers :(
Stop squabbling.
This is a plain English version of what is required.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/21/new_web_email_regulation/
While it is on theregister, the content was actually provided by
out-law.com who are quite well respected.
Simon
(who is about to break the law, as I am a UK based business)
--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange,
MCP, MCSA, MCSE,
Amset IT Solutions Ltd.
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.amset-it.com
w: www.amset.info
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Martin Tuip [MVP]
Sent: 19 January 2007 00:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Disclaimers :(
Nope .. haven't read the full acts yet .. but could do that tonight if
that
makes you sleep better [1]
Martin
[1] probably will help me sleep better as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: Disclaimers :(
So your answer is, "No"?
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Time Magazine's Person of the Year!
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Martin
Tuip [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Disclaimers :(
Page 4 lists the relevant order and what is ammended.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: Disclaimers :(
Have you read the 1985 Act, the 1986 Order, the Insolvency Act 1986
and
the
Insolvency (Northern Ireland) Order 1989, so that you understand what
is
being amended?
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Time Magazine's Person of the Year!
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Martin
Tuip [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Disclaimers :(
The last page talks about ammendments
Regulations 6 and 7 and Schedules 1 and 2 amend the 1985 Act , the
1986
Order, the Insolvency Act 1986 and the Insolvency (Northern Ireland)
Order
1989 so as to include websites and documents in electronic form in
provisions requiring the company's name, registered number,
registered
office and other particulars, and the fact that the company is being
wound
up (where that is so), to appear on correspondence, publications and
other
documents.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: Disclaimers :(
Did you read that? I read it and I don't see where it says what you
seem
to
think it says. Please feel free to quote chapter and verse.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Time Magazine's Person of the Year!
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Martin
Tuip [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Disclaimers :(
Nope .. true. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2006/uksi_20063429_en.pdf
it
doesn't specifically say you need a disclaimer, but what you have to
do
boils down to having to use a disclaimer.
These new regulations came into force on Jan 1st 2007, and they
require
companies to disclose their company name, registration number, place
of
registration and registered office address on the company website,
in
e-mail
footers and on order forms.
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Crowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: Disclaimers :(
"And apparently after June 1st all email messages in the UK legally
must
have a disclaimer."
I'm not a British legal scholar, but I find that extremely hard to
believe.
Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
problems."
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Fyodorov,
Andrey (Citco)
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disclaimers :(
I hate disclaimers.
But the company wants to do them. And apparently after June 1st all
email
messages in the UK legally must have a disclaimer.
We are currently using Borderware to create disclaimers, we can
even
have
custom disclaimers based on the source domain suffix or sender AD
group
membership. This is actually a feature that we need because we have
a
few
internal domains names and a bunch of business units that should
have
different disclaimers.
The problem is with e-mail threads. Since Borderware's goal is not
to
doctor
messages, it always appends disclaimers at the very bottom. Now if
someone
sends a new message out, it gets a disclaimer at the bottom.
Then the recipient replies back. Then the user replies to the
reply.
The
disclaimer gets slapped to the bottom of the whole thread.
Are there products that insert disclaimers at the end of the
message vs
bottom of the thread?
We have also tested Exchange 2007 transport rules and got the same
result -
all the disclaimers were slapped at the bottom of the thread.
How does Exclaimer do it? Does Exclaimer integrate with AD? Are
there
any
problems with Exclaimer?
Disclaimer link. To see it, just click the link below, or copy and
paste
it
into your browser's address line.
http://www.citco.com/emaildisclaimer.htm
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