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Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:27 AM
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Subject: Re: Last Logged on

A common problem, Christopher,

Tools like Quest MessageStats can give reports on detail like the age of the
last Sent Item in a mailbox which can give a fairly good idea of when the
mailbox was last used for real.

If only there was something as useful for Public Folders!

Makr

On 07/06/07, Christopher Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wouldn't you like to know when the last time was that a real user - as 
> opposed to your antivirus software - logged in to each mailbox? It 
> would make it trivial to run a report of inactive mailboxes which is 
> helpful for corporate mail and critical for hosted email where they 
> are charged each month for each mailbox.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Hawkins, Geni P
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:59 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Last Logged on
>
> If there's one topic to which I would not apply the term "pleasant,"
> it's auditing, "real" or otherwise.  Even at my advanced age.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed 
> Crowley [MVP]
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:23 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Last Logged on
>
> I'll believe it when I see it.
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Time Magazine's Person of the Year!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Harris
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:04 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Last Logged on
>
> Unless you're all about 80 years old, I think you're in for a pleasant 
> surprise.
>
> "Real" auditing is quickly making its way up the priority list.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed 
> Crowley [MVP]
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:57 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Last Logged on
>
> The underlying theme that it would be desirable if Exchange supported 
> the kind of auditing he seeks is something I agree with, but it's a 
> fact that it doesn't, and likely won't during our lifetimes.
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Time Magazine's Person of the Year!
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Chris Scharff
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Last Logged on
>
> Your first response is that you'd be worried if someone accessed a 
> resource.
> Maybe I'm just more secure with regards to the permissions structure 
> on my resources. If a user accesses a resource in Exchange it's 
> because they had permissions to it. So checking permissions seems
ineffective.
> If I wanted access to a resource that I didn't have permissions to I 
> can guarantee that my non-benign activities wouldn't point back to my 
> account directly.
> There's
> behavior that might presume intrusion, successful access to a resource 
> one has access to isn't one that happens to meet my bar. Like I said, 
> if it did I'd need to audit success and failure logs for all of the 
> resources on my network and that's not a practical or effective 
> security mechanism.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Albert Duro Posted At: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:38 PM Posted To: 
> swynk
> Conversation: Last Logged on
> Subject: Re: Last Logged on
>
> ouch! ...
> ...BUT, please note that the first level of my suggested investigation 
> was 'delegates' and 'permissions' .  It's only after those benign 
> factors are ruled out that one escalates into shadier aspects, where 
> it is correct to presume intrusion.  OK, so I shorthanded it, and 
> maybe my segways were not elegant.  But I don't see that I offered any 
> bad advice.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:39 AM
> Subject: RE: Last Logged on
>
>
> Intruder? If the user opens a calendar and checks the free/busy 
> information for a DL it can cause that entry as can any variety of 
> other conditions. No one can access any resource in Exchange or AD 
> they don't have access to.
> Unless you expend the same level of effort auditing and tracking down 
> every access and failed access to network resources across the 
> enterprise it seems to be a bit of overkill.
>
> It's pretty easy to verify permissions exist or do not exist to allow 
> a user access to a given resource. If they don't exist there is no 
> intrusion. If they do exist there may still be no intrusion (I allow 
> Everyone view access to my calendar, if they open it it's not an 
> intrusion, it's utilization of a granted permission.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Albert Duro Posted At: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:13 AM Posted To:
> swynk
> Conversation: Last Logged on
> Subject: Re: Last Logged on
>
> I would be.  Did you check delegations on the 9?  How about permissions?
> Can you impersonate the intruder and try to replicate?
> Is your password policy such that its formula can easily be guessed?  
> If
>
> not, I would scan the intruder's computer for password cracking 
> software.
> I'd also monitor the intruder very closely, with tracking, exmerge, 
> whatever...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jean-Paul Natola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:45 AM
> Subject: Last Logged on
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have about 9 mailboxes that were all last logged on by one employee-
>
> Googling showed that it may occur if someone did a meeting request, I 
> checked with with one of the users , and they said they did not even 
> get an email from the user, much less a meting request.
>
> Should I be concerned?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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