I should have added my idea does not solve all of your issues, but it is as close as you are going to get.
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:19 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange advanced SMTP Configuration ? > > Leave everything the way it is if they want the ISP Pop server. I would > just change it to a forwarding MTA to hold and forward if your office > is > down. Then buy a backup system for the Exchange Server. That is the > only > solution I see that makes sense. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Fernicola > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:04 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Exchange advanced SMTP Configuration ? > > > > I understand your suggestion but the owners of the company do not > want > > to go that route. Your suggestion makes sense, however with that > setup > > the point of failure is the exchange server. If the exchange server > > went down they would not be able to receive email because the mx > record > > would be going to their dead exchange server. In my scenario the > pop3 > > server is the point of failure which is much better because its > managed > > by a hosting company and the small business does not have to maintain > > or > > worry about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Wells, James Arthur > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:36 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Exchange advanced SMTP Configuration ? > > > > The loop discussion came from my suggestion, which was to add a > second > > domain to the POP3 accounts and forward a copy there out of Exchange. > > There isn't a way to do THAT without causing a mail loop. > > > > Instead, if you take the POP3 server out of the picture for your > public > > MX routing, you can register a second domain to the POP3 host and > > forward a copy of everything from Exchange to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Internet mail will go straight to Exchange, internal coworker email > > will > > go straight to > > Exchange, and Exchange will maintain a "second copy" on the ISP's > mail > > server. > > > > If they decide they don't like Exchange, all you have to do is change > > your MX records to route through the ISP again. > > > > --James > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Brett Fernicola > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:30 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Exchange advanced SMTP Configuration ? > > > > I think you guys are missing the point, there is no loop or problem. > > First I don't care about the ISP Linux Pop3 server, its not my > problem. > > > > > > Let me brake it down again... > > > > Lets call the small company books.com, books.com pays a 3rd party > > webhost a small fee for webhosting dns, and 30 pop3 mail accounts. > The > > current users of this company all use pop3 to connect to the linux > host > > to get their email. All is well here. > > > > Ok now the users of the company are interested in exchange. They > have > > a > > small network with a domain controller, file servers etc. They also > > have an extra box which I installed exchange on. They have a semi > > decent static internet connection which I registered etc. There > > internal > > domain name is contoso.local. Now on the 3rd party webhosting admin > > panel each users pop3 email account is setup to forward a copy of all > > new incoming email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] this feature is working > > 100%. > > > > Now what I want to achieve. By adding the external live smtp address > > for each user in AD, ex. [EMAIL PROTECTED] the users at the company can > > log > > into exchange and send email; by setting the 2nd smtp address > > "@books.com" as primary, the recipients of those emails see > @books.com > > as the sender. If the recipient emails [EMAIL PROTECTED] back the email > > will go to the Linux Pop3 server "again not under my control or > > problem" > > and once the email gets there it will be forwarded to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > There the email will get to the proper exchange account etc. So now > we > > have a copy of the email in 2 places. On the linux host and on their > > exchange server. > > > > > > The only problem I have is this. Using this setup if a user logs > into > > exchange on the lan and sends an email to another co-worker using the > > real external domain, @books.com, so lets say [EMAIL PROTECTED] emails > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] using their exchange profile, then the email will not > > go > > out to the internet, instead it gives delivered instantly to their > > mailbox via exchange. I can not have this right now. I need > exchange > > to not deliver mail going to the domain @books.com to its local > storage > > group. Instead I need it to strictly use a Smart Host or something > to > > force exchange to send the email out to the internet where it will > > reach > > the Linux Pop3 server only. Now once that email reaches the linux > pop3 > > server it will be forwared to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thus no duplicate > > emails, one exchange server not doing that much work, and the linux > > server I don't care one bit about. > > > > > > So now if exchange fails or they do not like it, they can switch > > Outlook > > profiles and fall back to their Linux Pop3 account, where low and > > behold > > an exact copy of %100 of their email will be sitting waiting for > them. > > > > > > I know this can be done, its got to be very similar to when one > company > > purchases another company and they start a merger. > > > > Please any real help is appreciated this setup has to work as > > described. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Dean > > Cunningham > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:52 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Exchange advanced SMTP Configuration ? > > > > Probably agree with your comment on your last line :-) > > > > Journalling may be another option, or perhaps each excahnge mailbox > has > > an alternate recipient that is a mailbox on the linux server?? > > > > Would not cached outlook give them similar feature to what they have > > now? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Brett > > Fernicola > > Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 06:35 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Exchange advanced SMTP Configuration ? > > > > The copy of email on the pop3 linux host is for backup and failsafe > > purposes, these users right now do not want to switch to exchange > > because > > they fear failure is destined on the exchange server. They want to > be > > able > > to fall back to the hosting provider they already pay for incase > > exchange > > goes down. They also do not have an exchange admin, but they do have > > the > > hardware and bandwidth in place. Since the pop3 is so cheap they > don't > > mind > > paying them for this type of backup and service until they feel they > > can > > manage exchange. > > > > However they are interested in exchange because they want to be able > to > > share calendars and inbox's etc, which means using exchange. > > > > > > So what will happen right now with the current setup is their pop3 > and > > exchange accounts will all have the same exact email except for any > > emails > > sent from outlook via exchange to another user in the company. This > > mail > > sees the smtp address in AD and sends the mail to the storage group. > > So > > if > > exchange fails and they have to temporarily switch profiles to pop3 > > they > > will be missing all the emails the users sent to each other. > > > > Can anyone think of any solution to this problem, or am I nuts for > even > > trying. > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > Have you clicked on yet? > > www.nrc.govt.nz > > > ********************************************************************** > > NORTHLAND REGIONAL COUNCIL > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > > are addressed. 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