Thanks.. I will look into it some more. :) Alice
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ccollins9 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:06 AM To: exchange Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam Well, restoring a PST is a file restore, not an Exchange restore. You have to remember how Veeam works. It takes a snapshot of a VM, then backs up the entire VM (aka an image-level backup). So yes, to restore a file from a guest OS running in a VM, you must first restore that VM before you can get a single file back. Now, if you have multiple VMs on a single full backup on the tape, you can choose to restore ONLY that VM, not ALL VMs that are on the tape. Up until 6 months ago we were an all physical Exchange shop too. We had several physical Exchange servers in a DAG. We wanted to move away from Backup Exec so we stood up a virtual Exchange server with the mailbox role and added it to the DAG. Then we had Veeam backup the passive copies of the DAG databases from that server. Veeam integrates with VSS, so when the full backup was done on the virtual Exchange, it truncated the logs on all Exchange servers. http://helpcenter.veeam.com/backup/70/vsphere/restoring_files_from_tape.html On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Alice Goodman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: SO the backup folks are telling me 2 or 3 issues, which I would like to check in on with those actually using the product. :) (1) Poor to-tape archiving solution. You have to restore an entire backup from tape before you can select and restore a single file.So to restore a PST or two for a termed employee, it would require restoring all of a two day job before we could restore a 300MB PST. (2) If their Exchange environment is virtualized, it would make sense. Ours isn't, so Veeam isn't really an option. They did the testing, not me, so I feel like I am not connecting the dots here between their comments and your experience. Thanks for some input, Alice From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of ccollins9 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:53 PM To: exchange Subject: RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam Tapes work fine with Veeam, just make sure you have a good tape vault with a good Windows driver that can control it. We use a Dell ML6000 series which believe is a rebranded Adic Scaler. Backup Exec I think used it's own driver with the ML and it always had problems. We also backup to Dell direct attached storage On Nov 10, 2014 10:37 PM, "Freddy Grande" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: What problem did you have with tapes? We currently use DPM to backup to disk then tapes but I've planned to move over to just Veeam B&R and it has tape support that has fared well in my testing. Freddy From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Alice Goodman Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2014 1:26 PM To: exchange Subject: RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam What are you backing up to? We still use Tapes and Veeam could not attach to the physical tape drives. So we are still on BE and looking for something to replace it with. Commvault is too expensive, and not sure where else to look. Alice From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ccollins9 Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 5:31 PM To: exchange Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam Yes, it's out and we have already upgraded. It's nice! We are lucky to have very few physical servers left, and the ones that are essentially for their data replicated to the VM world and we back it up there. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Steve Ens <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Is 8 already out? I haven't seen that update yet. Need to go find it. I still run BE for a few physical machines since Veeam is only virtual. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:35 PM, ccollins9 <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: We replaced Backup Exec with Veeam a few years ago and love it. Haven't regretted it one bit and we especially like the direct SAN integration. Restores for AD and SQL were really funky where you needed to bring up a "virtual lab", but they changed and improved that in version 8 that was just released. Works great for exchange. There was one annoyance with exchange that I can't remember right now, I'll try to remember and reply again On Nov 7, 2014 1:18 PM, "Steve Ens" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I find that you need a beefy server to actually run the software properly, but on the host machines (Hyper V for me) it is great. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Senter, John <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: We are planning on looking at this as well. What have been your experiences with the product? Any noticeable overhead on the servers? Are the reports beneficial for the cost? From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Jimmy Tran Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 10:06 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [Exchange] RE: Veeam Yes, I do. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David McSpadden Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 6:47 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [Exchange] Veeam Anyone using Veeam with Exchange 2010? This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are property of Indiana Members Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. 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