I'm with ya totally! So it's like hearin: (drum-n-base) ...., "POWER (to
the stupid exchange admin) PEOPLE YALL!!! circa PE, late 80's - .... cool,
now i got that song stuck in my head....... too many beers... must go to
sleep...... thump- /byron
-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: oh, man what a mess
more power to the stupid people! who's with me!!
On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Ed Crowley wrote:
> Shoot. I was already going to look for my bat.
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation
> All your base are belong to us.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drewski
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: oh, man what a mess
>
>
> How 'bout we just call you Edna?
>
> Drew (MOS)
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> Take my advice, or I'll spank you a lot.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 12:15 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: oh, man what a mess
>
>
> no, he is not. I cannot judge, since I am one of those arrogant
> ignorant
> admins. I cannot seem to get out of the "If it isn't broken, it doesn't
> have enough features yet" mode. If I would have known *better* I should
> have checked the queues before making the change to the correct config.
>
> Beat me and call me Edna.
>
> On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Daniel Chenault wrote:
>
> > Production servers are not for "playing." That's what a lab is for. Is
> that
> > someone still there?
> >
> then
> > > someone set it back on 11/15/99, but did not flush the queues.
> > >
> > > A big-wig apparently sent a flame mail during that week which did
> > > not get delivered until today. He said it was one of his "finer
> pieces
> of
> > work",
> > > but the recipient wasn't his boss at the time. Oopsy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Daniel Chenault wrote:
> > >
> > > > The MTA is unable to determine the state (inbound, outbound) of
> the
> IMS.
> > > > Thus the MTA will still deliver messages into the IMS' hidden
> mailbox
> > for
> > > > external delivery if certain conditions are met. Since the IMS was
> set
> > to
> > > > inbound only, those messages were never looked at. Not until you
> set
> it
> > to
> > > > outbound did it look at and process those messages.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jennifer Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:24 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: oh, man what a mess
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I understand that the IMS was setup incorrectly in
> > > > > this remote site. My dilemma is that 3000 messages (some 3
> years
> old,
> > > > some 5 months old) have
> > > > > apparently been sent after configuring the IMS correctly, (all
> sent
> > > > > outbound.)
> > > > >
> > > > > If this is true:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Setting an IMS to Inbound Only in Exchange 5.5 and earlier will
> not
> > keep
> > > > > > the MTAs from routing outbound SMTP mail to the IMS server.
> > > > >
> > > > > then why did 3000 very old outbound messages get sent after
> setting
> > the
> > > > > IMS to Outbound Only?
> > > > >
> > > > > I prefer ahfuku.com, that also works.
> > > > >
> > > > > Charma, ED.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Ed Crowley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Jennifer, please read the list! This is discussed every so
> often!
> > > > Setting
> > > > > > an IMS to Inbound Only in Exchange 5.5 and earlier will not
> keep
> the
> > > > MTAs
> > > > > > from routing outbound SMTP mail to the IMS server. The way to
> keep
> > that
> > > > > > from happening is to change the Address Space so that it has
> but
> one
> > > > entry
> > > > > > of "clownpenis.fart". (It has to be that exact domain. Don't
> ask
> > me
> > > > why.)
> > > > > > Then the GWARTs won't try to route mail bound to valid SMTP
> > addresses to
> > > > > > that server. Microsoft would call this behavior "by design".
> If
> it
> > is
> > > > by
> > > > > > design then it is a severe and longstanding design flaw.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > > > > > Tech Consultant
> > > > > > Compaq Computer Corporation
> > > > > > All your base are belong to us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jennifer
> > Baker
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:12 AM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: oh, man what a mess
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After changing a remote IMS from send only Inbound to send
> Outbound
> > Only
> > > > > > then back to Inbound only mode, many messages (3000) were sent
> from
> > as
> > > > far
> > > > > > back as 1999. If the IMS is set to inbound only, would it not
> send
> > > > > > undeliverables for refused connections or would it just queue
> the
> > > > message?
> > > > > > It seems that any other maildomain that is not hosted by the
> org
> > would
> > > > be
> > > > > > sent as undeliverable yet it got queued somewhere. Anybody
> know
> > where?
> > > > I
> > > > > > have other remote IMS queues that could have the same issue,
> but I
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