If one of my clients wants to send me a 30MB file, they are welcome to do
so. 

Confucius says, "Proper methods take backseat to paying customer".

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  Chris Scharff    [EMAIL PROTECTED]    www.swinc.com
  Simpler-Webb, Inc.      Austin, TX         +1-512-322-0071
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 3:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Mailbox sizes: Incoming/Outgoing message limits
> 
> 
> The argument is that E-mail is not the proper method for 
> transferring files.  Why?  Because E-mail is not 
> point-to-point.  If you have a 30Mb file you'd like to send 
> me, it would make much more sense to make it available to a 
> browser or FTP client and then send me a link.  If you decide 
> to send me an E-mail, you will first bog down Outlook while 
> it drops the message in your outgoing MTA.  And then God 
> forbid you actually have more than one Exchange server or 
> site - let alone Exchange 5.5.  If so, get ready to wait 
> about 6 hours for the X.400 connector to slug that thing 
> across the pipe.  Uh-oh, this thing is internal - better let 
> the IMC take care of it.  What?  We have a virus and content 
> scanning gateway?  Hold on, you can scan it in about 15 minutes.  
> 
> SCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSC
> ANSCANSCAN
> 
> Ok done.  Now lemme route this to mail.speakeasy.net - WHAT?  
> THEY DON'T ACCEPT ANYTHING OVER 4MB?  I'm gonna have to send 
> it back.  Here you go IMC.............
> 
> The alternative of course is FTP or HTTP.  Client:  Lemme 
> have that file.  IIS:  Okie hereya go.
> 
> My argument has nothing to do with the time it takes to 
> deliver such a large message, although that might be a 
> consideration for the user.  My job is to try and maintain 
> the message routing and mailbox servers that become 
> unavailable while choking on and trying to deliver large files.
> 
> Eric (drama queen for a day)
> 
> > ------------ Original Message -----------
> > From: Schwartz, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:25:38 -0400
> > 
> > I'll have to disagree. If your business is graphic design 
> or something
> > similar, then you have a real need to send and receive 
> large attachments.
> > Your design should reflect your need. If I need to have 
> bigger servers,
> > mailboxes and or internet connections to meet these needs 
> then you should
> > be
> > able to write a justification for the purchase. Having no 
> limits at all in
> > place would not be a great idea unless you like having 
> users call because
> > their mailbox is over the limit or your IMS is trying to 
> deliver a 1GB
> > video
> > that someone made. 
> > 
> > It is a business decision with technical implications.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:     [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent:     Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:18 PM
> > > To:       Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject:  RE: Mailbox sizes:  Incoming/Outgoing message limits
> > > 
> > > Where I used to work, the most common reason for me 
> getting paged at 3
> > am
> > > was because someone was sending their Napster directories 
> from work to
> > > home using E-mail (this was a very large and well-known 
> organization
> > that
> > > happened to be run by idiots).  While the need for limits 
> should be
> > > obvious to everyone on this group, we are often not in a 
> position to
> > > impose these policies.
> > > 
> > > The truth is that if anything it is more a technical decision than
> > > business, due to the fact that the main implication is system
> > performance.
> > > 
> > > Eric
> > > 
> > > > ------------ Original Message -----------
> > > > From: Steve Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:01:59 -0400
> > > > 
> > > > The need for limits is not obvious at all.
> > > > 
> > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/30/01 03:48PM >>>
> > > > Wouldn't this be more of a business decision than a 
> technical one?
> > > > Obviously
> > > > there are limits that need to be in place. If you set 
> prohibit send
> > and
> > > > receive at 50MB on the mailboxes, then you should set 
> the IMS lower.
> > > Other
> > > > than that, the question is, what do your users need to send and
> > receive?
> > > > 
> > > > Us = 8MB in, 5MB out.
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Sethi, Ali [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:44 AM
> > > > > To:   Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject:      Mailbox sizes:  Incoming/Outgoing message limits
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > We are beginning to implement a policy of limiting all
> > > incoming/outgoing
> > > > > messages to 5mb.  I just wanted a consensus of size 
> limits are set
> > by
> > > > > other
> > > > > companies.  What size limit have you implemented?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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