This is the part that has been hashed over and over and over and over in the
archives. Search the archives for "Message limits" and you'll find both
sides of this argument argued eloquently (and not so eloquently). It doesn't
change the fact that it is still a business decision... if the CEO dictated
that we will allow 30 MB, or 150 MB files, to pass... well then, so be it.
It is our job to indicate what the ramifications are of doing that.
Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox sizes: Incoming/Outgoing message limits
The argument is that E-mail is not the proper method for transferring files.
Why? Because E-mail is not point-to-point. If you have a 30Mb file you'd
like to send me, it would make much more sense to make it available to a
browser or FTP client and then send me a link. If you decide to send me an
E-mail, you will first bog down Outlook while it drops the message in your
outgoing MTA. And then God forbid you actually have more than one Exchange
server or site - let alone Exchange 5.5. If so, get ready to wait about 6
hours for the X.400 connector to slug that thing across the pipe. Uh-oh,
this thing is internal - better let the IMC take care of it. What? We have
a virus and content scanning gateway? Hold on, you can scan it in about 15
minutes.
SCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCAN
Ok done. Now lemme route this to mail.speakeasy.net - WHAT? THEY DON'T
ACCEPT ANYTHING OVER 4MB? I'm gonna have to send it back. Here you go
IMC.............
The alternative of course is FTP or HTTP. Client: Lemme have that file.
IIS: Okie hereya go.
My argument has nothing to do with the time it takes to deliver such a large
message, although that might be a consideration for the user. My job is to
try and maintain the message routing and mailbox servers that become
unavailable while choking on and trying to deliver large files.
Eric (drama queen for a day)
> ------------ Original Message -----------
> From: Schwartz, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:25:38 -0400
>
> I'll have to disagree. If your business is graphic design or something
> similar, then you have a real need to send and receive large attachments.
> Your design should reflect your need. If I need to have bigger servers,
> mailboxes and or internet connections to meet these needs then you should
> be
> able to write a justification for the purchase. Having no limits at all in
> place would not be a great idea unless you like having users call because
> their mailbox is over the limit or your IMS is trying to deliver a 1GB
> video
> that someone made.
>
> It is a business decision with technical implications.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:18 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Mailbox sizes: Incoming/Outgoing message limits
> >
> > Where I used to work, the most common reason for me getting paged at 3
> am
> > was because someone was sending their Napster directories from work to
> > home using E-mail (this was a very large and well-known organization
> that
> > happened to be run by idiots). While the need for limits should be
> > obvious to everyone on this group, we are often not in a position to
> > impose these policies.
> >
> > The truth is that if anything it is more a technical decision than
> > business, due to the fact that the main implication is system
> performance.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > > ------------ Original Message -----------
> > > From: Steve Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:01:59 -0400
> > >
> > > The need for limits is not obvious at all.
> > >
> > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/30/01 03:48PM >>>
> > > Wouldn't this be more of a business decision than a technical one?
> > > Obviously
> > > there are limits that need to be in place. If you set prohibit send
> and
> > > receive at 50MB on the mailboxes, then you should set the IMS lower.
> > Other
> > > than that, the question is, what do your users need to send and
> receive?
> > >
> > > Us = 8MB in, 5MB out.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Sethi, Ali [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:44 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Mailbox sizes: Incoming/Outgoing message limits
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > We are beginning to implement a policy of limiting all
> > incoming/outgoing
> > > > messages to 5mb. I just wanted a consensus of size limits are set
> by
> > > > other
> > > > companies. What size limit have you implemented?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
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