Yes, there is. In my world of support, though, lost data == unacceptable.
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From: "Drewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 8:45 AM
Subject: RE: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.
> I thought that if you lost the logs, there was a procedure to at least
> restore the data in the Stores? Yeah, you lose anything that wasn't
> committed, of course, but can't you recover something?
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 31 August 2001 11:09
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.
>
>
> The same mirror? If that mirror goes you lose everything. If put on
separate
> mirrors, the odds are against both of them failing at the same time.
>
> For performance, the EDB files go on a striped set and the logs go on a
> mirrored set (doesn't need to be striped; no advantage). If you lose your
> EDB files, you can rebuild from the logs. If you lose your logs you're
> toast.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Midgley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:27 AM
> Subject: RE: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.
>
>
> > If perfromance is not an issue (I know it's always an issue but for
> > arguments sake...) what would be the disadvantages of putting the logs
and
> > stores together on the mirror?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 30 August 2001 19:07
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.
> >
> >
> > If the log drive fails, all transactions are committed to the database
and
> > Exchange shuts down. (That is in theory.) However, your point is quite
> > valid since the log drive is also the OS drive, and if the OS drive
fails,
> I
> > don't trust anything to shut down right. So I would agree to mirror the
> > OS-Log drive and put the database on the unmirrored third drive. I
would
> > also partition the OS-Log drive into two partitions (9 + 9 GB sounds
fine,
> > adjusting that one way or the other is fine, too) so that if you have
some
> > problem with backups and the logs don't get purged for a period of time
it
> > doesn't completely kill your system.
> >
> > Still, I'd want one more drive before I'd call this a production server,
> > even if for only ten months.
> >
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Tech Consultant
> > Compaq Computer Corporation
> > All your base are belong to us.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Osborn, Joel
> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:38 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.
> >
> >
> > You would put the logs on an unmirrored drive?
> >
> > Data (that has been backed up) can be recovered. Unbacked up logs
(created
> > since the last back up) cannot.
> >
> > I'm not sure what the answer would be, given the drive constraints, but
I
> > would press for some more drive. I would not trust the logs to a
> > non-redundant spindle. But I also understand the need to keep the logs
and
> > data on seperate spindles.
> >
> > Joel K. Osborn
> > Information Systems Technical Specialist
> > Wisconsin Department of Transportation
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.
> >
> >
> > Yes. In fact, you could have just a C drive.
> >
> > Now, if you want to have SOME chance of recovery if the server crashes,
I
> > would do the following:
> >
> > 1) Format the hard drives
> > 2) Break the RAID 5
> > 3) Take one disk and format it as C:
> > 4) Take the other two disks, and mirror them to create D:
> > 5) Install the OS and Exchange on C:
> > 6) Tell performance optimiser to put the Logs on C: and the Information
> > Store on D:.
> >
> > Then, ghod forbid you lose a spindle, you can still recover.
> >
> > Drew (MOS)
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:03 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.
> >
> >
> > Hi, Drewski
> > I am going to use this server for 10 month only, then I would upgrade
the
> > server to Exchange 2000 server.
> > If I am running RAID 5 on all my three drives, are you saying I could
just
> > have C and D drive instead of having C, D, E, and F drives? It won't
> matter
> > at all.
> >
> > Thanks
> > John Shi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:03 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.
> >
> >
> > With the set up you have, it really doesn't matter, because your
> partitions
> > are either sharing physical drives, or spanning physical drives -- so if
a
> > drive fails, you'll lose everything anyway.
> >
> > Drew (MOS)
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Shi
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:53 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.
> >
> >
> > Hi, Everyone
> >
> > I have a server that has 3*18.2 GB. I have 4 GB on the C drive.
> >
> > I have installed a Windows 2000 server and SP2 on the C drive. I need to
> > install Exchange server 5.5 on that.
> >
> > I would like to find out what is the best space usage for private
> > Information store, Public Information store, Information Store Logs,
> > Directory Service, Directory Service logs, and MTA.
> >
> > Should I just have C and D drive or I should have C, D, E, F drive? How
do
> > I allocate these spaces?
> >
> > The following is what I see from the MS book..
> >
> > Private Information store C:\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA
> > Public Information Store C:\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA
> > Inforamtion Store Logs D:\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA
> > Directory Service F:\exchsrvr\DSADATA
> > Message Transfer Agent E:\exchsrvr\mtadata
> >
> >
> > I do not know how to allocate the disk space on each drive.
> >
> > Thanks
> > John Shi
> >
> >
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