Nav for Exchange in VAPI mode (or mixed with Mapi) is not actually causing a
corruption but is rather causing a latency with how it scans mail.  There is
a setting to scan mail in the background which will scan all messages in
advance.  If you turn that on and allow an hour per GB of Information Store
all messages currently in the store will be scanned and then the deleting
issue will be greatly minimized.  All this being said, here at Quinnipiac
University with 10,000 users and a high mail traffic we have been reduced to
only using MAPI.  The same error you see with deleting will also happen in
synchronization.  Hope that helps.

Matthew Romeo
Systems Programmer/Analyst
E-Mail Administrator
Quinnipiac University
(203) 582-8990

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-----Original Message-----
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag?


I'd give PSS a call.


-----Original Message-----
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag?


Good points, I could turn it off but I am curious is the nav causing a
corruption or is the nav just causing the error and there is no real
corruption?

-----Original Message-----
From: Quiram, Nadia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag?

Experienced this the last week or so here.  Turned off mixed mode and all is
well.  I've also seen this error running Trend's Scanmail in AVAPI mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bernadette Gerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag?


Eric--

Just a thought, but are you running NAV for Exchange in mixed mode? There's
a Knowledgebase article on Symnantec's site about this one.

--Bernadette Gerber/NT and Exchange Administrator/ESRI Redlands

-----Original Message-----
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Am I in need of a serious db defrag?


Hi

Starting to get users who can't delete emails that have attachments in them
or otherwise large messages, error returned is 'The item could not be
deleted.  It was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied'.
Checked both the server event log and my own but found nothing related to
this.  Am I looking at some fragmentation problems?

Client Outlook 2000
Exchange 5.5 sp4hot on Nt4 sp6
Single site in single domain

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