No sir, you REALLY didn't need that catalytic converter in your exhaust
system. It just robs you of MPG and makes you use that more expensive
unleaded gas.


I said that the user didn't need to purchase any thing else to make it
useable or safe. And don't we have an aftermarket customization market as
well, mouse pads in any shape, color and texture you want; screensaver
packages that make toasters fly across the screen, or you can watch Kimba
and Pumba tumble across the screen while you work. 

*Sigh*

<tongue in cheek mode>
I wonder if we can get a home computer operator license law passed. After
all they register cars, don't they?
</tongue in cheek mode>

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing because wise
men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe
it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam


Except for that damn pesky gas, the routine maintenance, the huge
aftermarket and customization industries and let's not forget the friendly
neighborhood mechanic who just took me for a cool grand.

To some extent I can identify with both sides of the fence, but the reality
is that the clueless are best edjumacated with ThE sTiCk [tm] or the fence
post.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
> 
> 
> Boy can I identify with that.
> 
> And to some extent, it is understandable. When a user goes 
> out and buys a car, other than for tags, they really don't 
> have to go anywhere else or purchase anything else to make it 
> usable or safe. Everything needed to make it usable is 
> included when you take delivery.
> 
> It's rather hard to explain just WHY they need a personal 
> firewall, virus protection and a set of system utilities if 
> it's "just for home/kid/fun" use.
> 
> John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
> Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
> (404) 239 - 2981 
> Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe 
> nothing because wise men say it is so. Believe nothing 
> because it is religious doctrine. Believe it only because you 
> yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam
> 
> 
> I had fun explaining to a naive-user in the weekend why 
> antivirus software was essential.
> 
> "If it is that essential, why doesn't it come with
> Windows XP?"
> 
> Phil
> ---------------------------------------------
> Phil Randal
> Network Engineer
> Herefordshire Council
> Hereford, UK 
> 
> > p.s. I do part time Internet consulting with a U.S. ISP with
> > over 130,000
> > users, on average I speak to 100 users a weekend with about 
> > 80% expressing
> > the above attitude.  95% of WinME users express their 
> > frustration.  And try
> > explaining why Windows XP that they just bought needs 
> > 'security updates'
> > (besides the fact that the Connexant modem that came with the 
> > system, will
> > only keep them connected for less than 10 minutes....  sheesh
> 
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