Mike, friendly advice.  Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few
weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a
troll, a goddess, etc.  Some of the people you may define as smartass, the
rest of us might define as guru with an edge.  I'll take the edge as long as
I get the guru knowledge along with it.  



-----Original Message-----
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


Not long.  I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give
some.  I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers.  

Michael Woodruff 
System Administrator 
inChord Communications Inc. 
A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 
614.543.6405 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list?

Tom.

-----Original Message-----
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig

This guy sure is a smart ass.



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;)

Chris
-- 
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> 
> 
> 
> You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. 
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> 
> Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I 
> don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' 
> Exchange server.
> 
> Chris
> --
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS.  Sophos is by 
> > far the greatest Anti Virus Software.
> >
> > 
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the 
> > background scanning option is enabled.  The only drawback is that 
> > every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the
> whole IS in
> > the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store).  In version 2.14 
> > the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new 
> > definitions are installed.  How did you get version 2.17?  We paid 
> > extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the 
> > corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > If you check the archives, I had and still have the same
> problem here
> > with NAV and users not being able to move attachments.  I
> had MS look
> > at it and Symantec and both blamed each other.  I ran optimiser and 
> > that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't
> got round
> > to yet) is checking the IS for corruption.  What I have
> found is that
> > when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it
> > starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real

> > issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is
> > disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a 
> > while.  I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI.  Ex 5.5 SP4.0, 
> > NT4.0 SP5a.
> >
> > Stephanie.
> > University of Glamorgan.
> > UK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > Exactly.  Well almost, I'm at the background part.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> > So your problem is the same one I ran into:
> >
> > -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it 
> > supported).
> >
> > -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode.
> >
> > -Users could not move multiple messages at once without
> errors.  Also
> > exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export.
> >
> > -Went back to MAPI only mode.
> >
> > -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the 
> > background scan.  No complaints yet, but I have not tried
> to break it
> > either.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > Yes I am, I'll look for that option.  Thank you.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> > Are you running Norton AV for exchange?  If so, there is a
> background
> > scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new 
> > definitions arrive.  Once they are prescanned, a multi message move 
> > will not require all the messages to be checked for
> viruses.  I turned
> > on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan 
> > everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update
> came in the
> > middle of that.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied
> > errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and
> someone suggested
> > it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something
> to do with a
> > scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm 
> > talking about?
> >
> > I looked back but I cant seem to find it.
> >
> > Recap
> > Single site, single domain.  Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4
> sp6  Users
> > trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant
> move access
> > denied errors.
> 
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