There's no real way for it to tell that the message if failing because it
was deliberately forged.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alverson, Thomas M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: IMC originator <>


> Is there any way to have exchange 5.5 treat those NDR messages to bad
> spammer email addresses differently than real emails?  I delete them when
I
> see them in the queue, but It would be nice if you could make exchange
give
> up real easily (quickly) when trying to send an NDR to a bad address.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:11 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: IMC originator <>
>
>
> The RFC isn't real clear on this. We've gone round on this before and it
> seems that server can optionally deny the message up-front or accept it
and
> than NDR it back to the sender. Exchange does the latter.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Siegel, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:55 PM
> Subject: RE: IMC originator <>
>
>
> > Ok, but they should not be sending ndr's in response to notification
> > messages is my point. If relaying disabled, messages that are
> > 'spoofed' should not generate an NDR in my opinion. I mean, why should
> > it send and fail send and fail to hosts that don't exist just to say,
> > 'invalid host'
> or
> > relaying prohibited or am I missing something?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:41 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: IMC originator <>
> >
> >
> > They will still appear for standard, valid NDR's as well.
> >
> > William
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Siegel, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:42 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: IMC originator <>
> >
> >
> > So I should ignore those if they are not causing any other problem? I
> > have followed all the suggested reccomendations regarding relaying.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:41 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: IMC originator <>
> >
> >
> > That is your server NDRing the attempted relays back to the spammers.
> Since
> > spammers tend to use bogus addresses those messages will likely
> > timeout after three days as undeliverable.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Siegel, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:18 PM
> > Subject: IMC originator <>
> >
> >
> > > I believe I have closed my mail server: smtp.actv.com from relaying,
> > however
> > > whenever I go into the IMS queues, I am still seeing messages with
> > > originator <> with destination another host.  What is up with this,
> > > am I missing something?
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
>
>
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