This is said often enough in this forum that I'm not sure whether it's
been said in this thread:  Be sure you have a large enough schedule
window to allow IS maintenance to complete.  If you've only allowed one
15-minute block, then it probably isn't enough.  For larger stores, that
might mean that you should allow it to run all weekend if it needs to,
at least once until it's gone entirely through once.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 8:28 PM
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Subject: RE: IS Offline defrag- Mystery


...My original statement should then be modified to just read, "Let
online database maintenance run and try it again." (For you, Naveen,
this does not indicate any new instructions in regards to my original
suggestion, i.e. defrag and emptying the dumpster all happens inside of
online maintenance).

-Per

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Sunday, February 03, 2002 4:14 PM
Posted To: Exchange
Conversation: IS Offline defrag- Mystery
Subject: Re: IS Offline defrag- Mystery

Letting online defrag run also allowed the system to run other
system-specific housecleaning duties, specifically emptying the
dumpster.

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Subject: RE: IS Offline defrag- Mystery


'Just talking from experience. I ran into a situation where 3GB was
moved off of a db, then it was taken offline to compact...barely any
space was recovered. Remounted it, let online defrag run, took it
offline again and compacted it - got the 3GB back. This was an E2K
server.(compaction done on clients request). So...

-Per

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:14 PM
Posted To: Exchange
Conversation: IS Offline defrag- Mystery
Subject: Re: IS Offline defrag- Mystery

Uh.... offline compaction does just fine without online compaction ever
successfully completing. It just takes longer.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: IS Offline defrag- Mystery


If online maintenance does not have a chance to defrag the white space,
offline compaction will not be very effective (as you've witnessed).
Give the online maintenance a chance run, then try it again. Your
results should be better (they were for me).

-Per

-----Original Message-----
From: naveen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Saturday, February 02, 2002 6:02 PM
Posted To: Exchange
Conversation: IS Offline defrag- Mystery
Subject: IS Offline defrag- Mystery

Hi,
 After cleanning up 2 GB of mails from a database of 7.7 GB(through
Outlook 2000)and defrag the IS-PRIV offline ,we could only recover upto
500 MB.Last time(4 months ago) when we did similar excercise we could
recover upto 2GB of space from 6.2 GB database.

We are running Exchange 5.5 (Standard Edition) with SP4 on Win2K
Retention Period is 15 days.

Can anyone help us in solving this mystery.

thanks in advance

naveen

Systems Engineer
CxkNetworks Ltd

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