Nope. Installing Windows2000 is one issue, installing Activie Directory is
another issue. Handled by two different groups.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Cornetet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:13 PM
Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS? - getting a bit off topic, but...


> I'll have to agree. Up until fairly recently, whenever I called PSS, I got
> the help I needed irregardless and the call would stay open until I was
> happy. The last time I called, I was firmly told that once the problem
> crossed from an E2K install issue to an AD issue, I'd have to open a new
> call.
>
> At the time, I just assumed it was the tech I was working with. However,
> after reading this thread, I'm beginning to think MS is changing their PSS
> strategy a bit...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Pinquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS? - getting a bit off topic, but...
>
>
>
> ..since many of us call pss from time to time - there was this time when
> i was attempting to add another DC to my network, and while working on
> the ADS-related issue, the Server blue screened on a boot.  I was
> transferred to a hardware guy, who told me to do what i suspected, (boot
> w/ a floppy pointing to the mirror) and continued to work on the DS
> issue.  He specifically said he wouldn't help with the blue screen issue
> unless it was another case.  Maybe this guy was lazy, I dunno. By the
> way, I'm not attacking PSS - I've had a number of terrific experiences
> with them under stressful situations.
> Jeremy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:26 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Mail Loop at MS?
>
>
> I just retired from MS after eight years in support. I know what I'm
> talking
> about.
>
> You called in with a specific issue. As long as you're not presenting a
> laundry list of issues that case is not closed until that specific issue
> is
> resolved. That it may need to go to another group is irrelevant.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Pinquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:58 PM
> Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS?
>
>
> nope, i've tried to finagle them before - they're pretty specific about
> what they'll fix on an issue. Generally if they have to transfer you to
> another group, unless the problem is directly related, they'll not
> really help you out. ymmv i suppose.
> jeremy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:44 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Mail Loop at MS?
>
>
> Why another 245 quatloos? The case is open until _you_ say it's fixed.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Pinquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:39 PM
> Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS?
>
>
> I had the same thing during a support call earlier today.  (getting a
> 'ghosted' 5.5 server out of my 2000 environment, for all who care)
> I'm still having the same problem with event id 1706 (see below)  which
> i've found numerous posts in usenet asking about, and no one seems to
> know anything about it. Missy even replied to one of them with a
> question, but the original poster never wrote back. MS wouldn't help
> without another 245 buckeroos, so i'm on my own. any help?  (Win2k SP2,
> E2k SP1)
>
> Event Type: Warning
> Event Source: MSExchangeTransport
> Event Category: SMTP Protocol
> Event ID: 1706
> Date: 3/11/2002
> Time: 2:23:35 PM
> User: N/A
> Computer: MAILBOX
> Description:
> EXPS is temporarily unable to provide protocol security with
> "MAIL.bergen.cc.nj.us".  "CSessionContext::OnEXPSInNegotiate" called
> "HrServerNegotiateAuth" which failed with error code 0x8009030c (
> N:\transmt\src\smtpsink\exps\expslib\context.cpp@1414 ).
> Data:
> 0000: 0c 03 09 80               ...?
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:35 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS?
>
>
> You've misinterpreted a sarcastic jab at a company that millions enjoy
> mocking but, in my experience, provides a very reliable and stable
> product
> when administered with any amount of intelligence.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:19 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Mail Loop at MS?
>
>
> Since PSS has absolutely no input or administrative control over the
> microsoft.com domain, including the Exchange servers, your lack of warm
> fuzzies is ill-placed.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michel, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:13 PM
> Subject: Mail Loop at MS?
>
>
> > I was attempting to send an email to a PSS engineer when I received
> > the following NDR info.  To receive this NDR while attempting to
> > discuss an Exchange problem this does not make one feel warm and
> > fuzzy???
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> --
> > -------------
> > This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
> >
> > Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, because the
> > message was forwarded more than the maximum allowed times. This could
> > indicate a mail loop.
> >
> >        Userxxxf(name deleted to protect the engineer)@microsoft.com
> >
> >
> > Reporting-MTA: dns;inet-hub-04.redmond.corp.microsoft.com
> > Received-From-MTA: dns;inet-vrs-04.redmond.corp.microsoft.com
> > Arrival-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:27:19 -0800
> >
> > Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Action: failed
> > Status: 4.4.6
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> --
> > ------------
> >
> >
> >
> > David S. Michel
> > MCSE/CNE
> > Systems Engineer
> > Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster & Russell, P.A.
> > 200 East Broward Boulevard
> > Suite 1600
> > Fort Lauderdale, FL  33301
> > 954-527-2456  Direct Phone
> > 954-333-4056  Direct Fax
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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