No comment. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:22 PM Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS? - getting a bit off topic, but...
> They better not.. Or I will drive up there and Burn their campus down. > PSS is one of the those things that they do with extreme excellence. > This second and soon to be Third generation of Microsoft employee is > starting to be way to manager money oriented.. > > They better not Change PSS. Is this why you and Dean left Daniel? > > Milton R Dogg > Of The Dogg Foundation.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:14 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS? - getting a bit off topic, but... > > > I'll have to agree. Up until fairly recently, whenever I called PSS, I > got the help I needed irregardless and the call would stay open until I > was happy. The last time I called, I was firmly told that once the > problem crossed from an E2K install issue to an AD issue, I'd have to > open a new call. > > At the time, I just assumed it was the tech I was working with. However, > after reading this thread, I'm beginning to think MS is changing their > PSS strategy a bit... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeremy Pinquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:36 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS? - getting a bit off topic, but... > > > > ..since many of us call pss from time to time - there was this time when > i was attempting to add another DC to my network, and while working on > the ADS-related issue, the Server blue screened on a boot. I was > transferred to a hardware guy, who told me to do what i suspected, (boot > w/ a floppy pointing to the mirror) and continued to work on the DS > issue. He specifically said he wouldn't help with the blue screen issue > unless it was another case. Maybe this guy was lazy, I dunno. By the > way, I'm not attacking PSS - I've had a number of terrific experiences > with them under stressful situations. Jeremy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:26 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: Mail Loop at MS? > > > I just retired from MS after eight years in support. I know what I'm > talking about. > > You called in with a specific issue. As long as you're not presenting a > laundry list of issues that case is not closed until that specific issue > is resolved. That it may need to go to another group is irrelevant. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeremy Pinquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:58 PM > Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS? > > > nope, i've tried to finagle them before - they're pretty specific about > what they'll fix on an issue. Generally if they have to transfer you to > another group, unless the problem is directly related, they'll not > really help you out. ymmv i suppose. jeremy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:44 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: Mail Loop at MS? > > > Why another 245 quatloos? The case is open until _you_ say it's fixed. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeremy Pinquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:39 PM > Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS? > > > I had the same thing during a support call earlier today. (getting a > 'ghosted' 5.5 server out of my 2000 environment, for all who care) I'm > still having the same problem with event id 1706 (see below) which i've > found numerous posts in usenet asking about, and no one seems to know > anything about it. Missy even replied to one of them with a question, > but the original poster never wrote back. MS wouldn't help without > another 245 buckeroos, so i'm on my own. any help? (Win2k SP2, E2k SP1) > > Event Type: Warning > Event Source: MSExchangeTransport > Event Category: SMTP Protocol > Event ID: 1706 > Date: 3/11/2002 > Time: 2:23:35 PM > User: N/A > Computer: MAILBOX > Description: > EXPS is temporarily unable to provide protocol security with > "MAIL.bergen.cc.nj.us". "CSessionContext::OnEXPSInNegotiate" called > "HrServerNegotiateAuth" which failed with error code 0x8009030c ( > N:\transmt\src\smtpsink\exps\expslib\context.cpp@1414 ). > Data: > 0000: 0c 03 09 80 ...? > > Jeremy > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:35 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS? > > > You've misinterpreted a sarcastic jab at a company that millions enjoy > mocking but, in my experience, provides a very reliable and stable > product when administered with any amount of intelligence. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: Mail Loop at MS? > > > Since PSS has absolutely no input or administrative control over the > microsoft.com domain, including the Exchange servers, your lack of warm > fuzzies is ill-placed. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michel, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:13 PM > Subject: Mail Loop at MS? > > > > I was attempting to send an email to a PSS engineer when I received > > the following NDR info. To receive this NDR while attempting to > > discuss an Exchange problem this does not make one feel warm and > > fuzzy??? > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > -- > > ------------- > > This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. > > > > Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, because the > > message was forwarded more than the maximum allowed times. This could > > indicate a mail loop. > > > > Userxxxf(name deleted to protect the engineer)@microsoft.com > > > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns;inet-hub-04.redmond.corp.microsoft.com > > Received-From-MTA: dns;inet-vrs-04.redmond.corp.microsoft.com > > Arrival-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:27:19 -0800 > > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Action: failed > > Status: 4.4.6 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > -- > > ------------ > > > > > > > > David S. 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