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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Depp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:13 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: E2k Clustering
> 
> 
> Missy,
> 
> If you would not recommend clustering, what do you recommend for high 
> availablility environments?
> 
> Dennis Depp
> 
> At 11:17 AM 3/13/2002 -0500, missy koslosky wrote:
> >While I'm really not into arguing the point, while some people at 
> >Compaq and/or MS might recommend A/A over A/P, not everyone would.
> >
> >And yes, I'm one of the ones at Compaq who would recommend 
> A/P if I had 
> >a client that was dead set on clustering.  But I'd try to 
> talk them out 
> >of clustering if at all possible.
> >
> >Missy
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sabo, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:00 AM
> >Subject: RE: E2k Clustering
> >
> >
> >I talked to compaq/microsoft today, I am confident in our situation 
> >here that an active/active is the right choice for us.
> >
> >Currently we have the following:
> >Server no. 1 - Quad Pentium Pro 200 MHZ (very old chipset 
> technology) - 
> >1 MEG cache on each processor - 2 GB RAM: (800 
> mailboxes/heavy users) 
> >The most I ever saw the processor level was at 50% usage, 
> most of the 
> >time it is around 10%-20% usage
> >
> >Server no. 2 - dual Pentium III 500 MHZ Xeon Processor - 2 
> Meg cache on 
> >each processor - 2 GB RAM (6000 mailboxes/light users)- The 
> most I ever 
> >saw these processors was at 35%, most of the time it is around 5%-10%
> >
> >
> >We are going to the following:
> >Two servers running w2k adv sp2 e2k sp2 - Quad Pentium III 
> Xeon 700 MHZ 
> >- 2 MB cache of each processor- 3 GB physical RAM using a 
> Storageworks 
> >San solution.
> >
> >I would say these machines should run around 5-10% CPU usage.
> >
> >
> >Eric Sabo
> >NT Administrator
> >Computing Services Center
> >California University of Pennsylvania
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:59 AM
> >To: Exchange Discussions
> >Subject: RE: E2k Clustering
> >
> >
> >Use Active/Passive clusters when possible to increase 
> scalability and 
> >reduce failover times. Active/Active clusters are only supported in 
> >2-node configurations in which each node has a maximum of 40 percent 
> >loading and 1900 simultaneous users.
> >
> >"Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server Service Pack 2 Deployment Guide"
> >
> >In short, there are NO issues when running in 
> Active/Passive, but when 
> >running in Active/Active you have a high chance of a 
> failover failing 
> >because of memory fragmentation. Active/Passive is going to 
> provide you 
> >with high reliability failover. Active/Active is going to 
> cause grief.
> >
> >
> >Let me turn the tables, why do you think that Active/Active 
> is better 
> >than Active/Passive?
> >
> >
> >Ed
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Posted At: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:38 AM
> >Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
> >Conversation: E2k Clustering
> >Subject: RE: E2k Clustering
> >
> >
> >Hi there
> >
> >I was looking over the white paper, and according to Microsoft, both 
> >active/passive and active/active are recommended in the below listed 
> >whitepaper.  Do you have access to information that suggests 
> >otherwise??
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Russell
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:51 PM
> >To: Exchange Discussions
> >Subject: RE: E2k Clustering
> >
> >
> >Make it Active/Passive as recommended and it's a moot point.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Sabo, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Posted At: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:42 PM
> >Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
> >Conversation: E2k Clustering
> >Subject: RE: E2k Clustering
> >
> >
> >When they talk about concurrent connections, does microsoft 
> mean if one 
> >users is using a mapi client that would mean 3 connections there for 
> >just one user.  Is this correct?
> >
> >Eric Sabo
> >NT Administrator
> >Computing Services Center
> >California University of Pennsylvania
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:20 PM
> >To: Exchange Discussions
> >Subject: RE: E2k Clustering
> >
> >
> >Hi there
> >
> >According to the MS whitepaper, here are the limits for active / 
> >active:
> >
> >"After you deploy your cluster, make sure you do the following:
> >
> >Limit the number of concurrent connection (users) per node 
> to a maximum 
> >of 1,900, and proactively monitor the cluster to insure that the CPU 
> >does not exceed 40 percent (load generated from users) loading."
> >
> >There is more information in the white paper that will help 
> you.  The 
> >name is, "Deploying Microsoft Exchange 2000 server service pack 2 
> >clusters".
> >
> >Hope this helps you
> >
> >Russell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Ashby, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:50 PM
> >To: Exchange Discussions
> >Subject: E2k Clustering
> >
> >
> >We are evaluating an Exchange 2000 Active/Active cluster, but I 
> >remember an old limitation of 1000 clients per virtual server.
> >
> >In my searching of technet, and other knowledgebase 
> solutions, I have 
> >not been able to find this documented anywhere.
> >
> >Is there a technical limit to the number of clients per 
> virtual server?
> >
> >Proposed hardware:  2 quad processor, 2GB systems connected 
> to SAN via 
> >fibre channel.  100MB NIC connections.
> >
> >Roughly 4k users.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Andrew
> >
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