Isn't there a swynk list dedicated to certification banter?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:27 PM
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> Subject: RE: Cerification question
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> Why do we go through this every three to six months?  
> 
> William 
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Soysal, Serdar
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:55 PM
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> Subject: RE: Cerification question
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> Certs are not a sign of competency.  They just mean that the 
> person is capable of memorizing braindumps.  I interviewed 
> MCSEs that answered the question "Explain your NT domain 
> structure in your previous job" with an answer like "We had 
> ATM coming to the back of our PCs".  You've got to be careful 
> with MCSEs that come with huge resumes.  There are some ways 
> you can tell if they're good or not though.  For example if 
> the candidate writes MCSE with a larger font than his own 
> name, you probably have a clueless wall-licker in your hands.
> 
> If a person doesn't have certification, it means that he/she 
> has not sat through the tests.  That person can be the most 
> knowledgeable guy out there.
> 
> 
> Serdar Soysal
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:29 PM
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> Subject: RE: Cerification question
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> That guy is a knucklehead. The "Best Cert" is the one you 
> need or help you do your job better. That is the best cert. I 
> have a CCNP and CCDP and I really do not work in that 
> industry. I really am an admin working with M$, Cisco, 
> Citrix, Unix etc.... I studied the Cisco stuff because we 
> were converting from x.25 to frame relay and I wanted to do 
> it so I asked the company to give me a shot. I used the 
> knowledge again when we switched to NVPN. My only point is 
> that the Certs were about what I needed to improve my skill set.
> 
> I had to hire a guy recently (echoing Lori and Ray) and I 
> hired the guy that had very little Practical experience but 
> he did have an MCSE. I thought that at least showed that he 
> wanted to learn. I interviewed a few others that had more 
> experience and never took the time to educate themselves in 
> their chosen craft.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:09 PM
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> Subject: RE: Cerification question
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> Don't invite that speaker again.
> 
> Serdar Soysal
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:58 PM
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> Subject: Cerification question
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> There is a big sqaubble about the best certification to get( 
> and this was being discussed at Ohio State) That if you was 
> going to get any type of certification EXCHANGE IS NOT THE 
> ONE to get, Cisco is the premier certification.One of the 
> speakers was telling a senior class this before graduation 
> starts. Do anyone agree with that or does it make a difference?
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