There is a list just for MCSE and another for MCSD. I'm subscribed to both, but there hasn't been any post in the last 2 months ;)
Filipe Joel de Almeida Network Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: +351 967819600 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: segunda-feira, 6 de Maio de 2002 14:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Cerification question Isn't there a swynk list dedicated to certification banter? > -----Original Message----- > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:27 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Cerification question > > > Why do we go through this every three to six months? > > William > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Soysal, Serdar > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:55 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Cerification question > > > Certs are not a sign of competency. They just mean that the > person is capable of memorizing braindumps. I interviewed > MCSEs that answered the question "Explain your NT domain > structure in your previous job" with an answer like "We had > ATM coming to the back of our PCs". You've got to be careful > with MCSEs that come with huge resumes. There are some ways > you can tell if they're good or not though. For example if > the candidate writes MCSE with a larger font than his own > name, you probably have a clueless wall-licker in your hands. > > If a person doesn't have certification, it means that he/she > has not sat through the tests. That person can be the most > knowledgeable guy out there. > > > Serdar Soysal > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:29 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Cerification question > > > That guy is a knucklehead. The "Best Cert" is the one you > need or help you do your job better. That is the best cert. I > have a CCNP and CCDP and I really do not work in that > industry. I really am an admin working with M$, Cisco, > Citrix, Unix etc.... I studied the Cisco stuff because we > were converting from x.25 to frame relay and I wanted to do > it so I asked the company to give me a shot. I used the > knowledge again when we switched to NVPN. My only point is > that the Certs were about what I needed to improve my skill set. > > I had to hire a guy recently (echoing Lori and Ray) and I > hired the guy that had very little Practical experience but > he did have an MCSE. I thought that at least showed that he > wanted to learn. I interviewed a few others that had more > experience and never took the time to educate themselves in > their chosen craft. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:09 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Cerification question > > > Don't invite that speaker again. > > Serdar Soysal > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:58 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Cerification question > > > There is a big sqaubble about the best certification to get( > and this was being discussed at Ohio State) That if you was > going to get any type of certification EXCHANGE IS NOT THE > ONE to get, Cisco is the premier certification.One of the > speakers was telling a senior class this before graduation > starts. Do anyone agree with that or does it make a difference? > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

