Those of you who like the C brand servers will be happy to know that the big
H has decided to stop making servers and just rebrand C's servers under the
H name...  I honestly don't like the C servers and therefor don't like H's
decision (sorry Ed)...  I've been running on H servers for quite a number of
years and have been very happy with them.......  Of course opinions are like
a$$holes, everybody has one...  

To answer the original poster's question...  If you've got a disk on a RAID5
set that dies and eventually takes the whole RAID down with it, look for new
hardware and dump your current supplier like a hot potato.  The main purpose
of RAID5 is to be able to survive a single disk failure...

Joe Pochedley
"I like deadlines," 
cartoonist Scott Adams once said. 
"I especially like the whooshing 
sound they make as they fly by."




-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


Ahhh of course, that versatile Netfinity brand. Dreadful little boxes. Still
they're our biggest competitor and are kicking our buts at this time, so
they must be doing something right. It's just not doing servers right.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 May 2002 19:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

No...It would stand for Idiots. As in Idiots, Boneheads, and Morons.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

I'll bet 'I' is for Intel..
why? one of our divisions sell's these

What do I win if I'm right?

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


It'll never be time to go with the D word. The D people don't make servers,
they only claim to. Who's the I word though?

-----Original Message-----
From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 May 2002 18:28
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

Maybe it's time to go with D or I!


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:19 AM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


Back in 1998 we used Ed Crowley's employer's line of servers and they were
not that good. We switched to their major competitor. But now it's not a
competitor anymore since they became the same company. But I still like
servers that start with C better than those that start with H. But I think
Ed is also from the C side, right?

-----Original Message-----
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


Drop your hardware vendor.  Been running my databases on RAID5's on Ed
Crowley's employer's fine line of servers and NEVER EVER had an issue.  

Serdar Soysal


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


I apologise for the OT question...

Has anyone experienced issues with bad striping on a RAID5e disk array?
(hardware RAID)

I have had this twice in the last 6 months. When a disk dies in the array it
is replaced ASAP. RAID5e should be able to handle this without error right?

When the RAID5e striping has errors, it registers sectors on the logical
disk as bad and causes disk I/O errors - which screws (eventually
corrupts)
the exchange information store(s) on the logical drive and prevents backups
from completing.

hhhmmm ... perhaps someone can enlighten me as to why RAID5e couldn't handle
the occassional defunct drive without screwing the rest of the array in the
process of rebuilding itself...

The hardware vendor has recommended re-creating the RAID array from scratch
and restoring from backup....

Any thoughts?

sorry again for the OT question - but I'll even throw in a Friday afternoon
Haiku for good measure:

Friday afternoon
gotta get going home 
server is cactus

Thanks,
MP



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