And after it's a released product you'll usually want to wait a couple
of revisions before depending upon it!

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Siegfried
Weber
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)


Sadly enough, true. Conclusion: unless it is a released product there is
nothing you can really rely on, even a press announcement.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)
> 
> At ATE 2 years ago, we spent a lot of time answering questions about
the
> amazing E2K WebDav features in Outlook 2002 based on the presentations

> given there eh Sig? I don't exactly trust things I read on
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/default.asp as gospel either.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:25 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)
> >
> >
> > From the http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20879.html:
> >
> > <quote>
> > The pending announcement is vitally important for Microsoft, because

> > the rumors suggest that Kodiak, the next major release of Exchange 
> > Server, will use Yukon as its store rather than the current 
> > JET/EDB/ESE storage engine. If that is the case, then Yukon will 
> > need to handle the extraordinary storage flexibility that Exchange 
> > Server offers today. </quote>
> >
> > Read it closely. It doesn't say the next version of Exchange. It 
> > talks a about a future MAJOR release code named Kodiak. Also note 
> > that both articles is from 07/08/2001, about a year old! I wouldn't 
> > count on anything which isn't officially from Microsoft and current.
> >
> > And of course, these are all rumors unless it is officially 
> > confirmed in public by Microsoft. So, unless I read it on 
> > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/default.asp I do not believe it 
> > is true.
> >
> > Can we now get back to our daily work and stop feeding the rumor
mill?
> >
> > <Siegfried />
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:17 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)
> > >
> > > I apologize for leading anyone astray, but Siegfried I was
> > absolutely
> > > stunned to hear you say it wasn't so.  I have been
> > following this for
> > a
> > > long time and I though it was a done deal.
> > >
> > > Please give me your comments on the following links.
> > >
> > > http://www.dnjonline.com/TechEd2001/reports/sess_keynote_jon.html
> > >
> > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20879.html
> > >
> > > I am checking with a few of my SQL contacts who work for
> > Microsoft to
> > hear
> > > what they can officially say about this.  I know a few who work on
> > part of
> > > the teams who are involved in the SQL.NET File System which
> > you may or
> > may
> > > not know if very similar to WSS, and is optimized for handling the
> > sort of
> > > non-rectangular record sets that Exchange has.
> > >
> > > --Felicity
> > > > Neither will ESE98 being ported to SQL Server nor does the next
> > version
> > > > of Exchange have an SQL Server based database engine.
> > > >
> > > > As I mentioned already. Please check that information with the
> > source
> > > > you got it from and stop posting plain wrong information
> > here which
> > > > might confuse other people.
> > > >
> > > > <Siegfried />
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:21 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging) =20

> > > > > I know that, I was making a dumb joke about the fact that SQL
> > Server
> > > > will
> > > > > be providing the next database engine for the next version of
> > > > Exchange.
> > > > > And the code name for the next version of SQL Server is
> > Yukon. =20
> > > > > Can you confirm that ESE98 is being ported to SQL Server? =20
> > > > > TIA
> > > > >=20
> > > > > --Felicity
> > > > > > The next version of Exchange is not codenamed Yukon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > William ____________________________________________________
> > > > > > *Titanium* Racing Bikes
> > > > > > "Why ride when you can fly?" - William Lefkovics 
> > > > > > www.airborne.net 
> > > > > > ____________________________________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > Felicity
> > > > Smith
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:05 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unified Messaging is faceing pressures from two opposite
> > directions.
> > > > > > One from Americans with Disabilities Act which
> > requires greater
> > > > richness
> > > > > > - ie text to voice, braille, etc, and at the opposite pole -
> > greater
> > > > > > thinness - ie minimalism for text based phones - which strip
> > away
> > > > all
> > > > > > conten but text, and then compress words for instance
> > - removing
> > > > vowels,
> > > > > > TLA's etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MIS will now be included with the next version of
> > Exchange (code
> > > > name
> > > > > > Yukon).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Felicity
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > That'd be worth reading.  I'm _still_ nicking odd
> > quotes from
> > you
> > > > when
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I need to compare messaging to dial-tone availability :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 00:13
> > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Catch me in the right mood and maybe I will do a
> > data dump for
> > you
> > > > . .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Leonard Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 21:33
> > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > Subject: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Iam looking for information on:
> > > > > > > 1. Messaging & Collaboration
> > > > > > > 2. Unified Messaging
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The type of information I am looking for is on: 1. Why it 
> > > > > > > is happening (who it is for) 2. Who is making it happening

> > > > > > > (vendors) 3. How is it happening (solutions)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Looking for Articles?  Consortiums?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note: I've got Technet, so I already have the Microsoft
view
> > on
> > > > this
> > > > > > > topic.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advanced,
> > > > > > > Leonard
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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