The update would create temp directories under the VirusDefs directory until
the drive ran out of space.

-----Original Message-----
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MacAfee or Symantec ?


Ken,

Our SMS/AV guy just keeps an eye on the web page and downloads manually to
the main server that pushes everything out.

So what was the problem with the signature last week?  I haven't heard of
anything from our Help Desk, but then if there is a problem, I don't think
they'd be able to trace it back to the AV.

~Jim

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software products recommended by this individual.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MacAfee or Symantec ?


We use NAV CE here (currently upgrading to 7.61) for workstation and server
protection. On the whole, I've been very impressed with the software. It has
caused zero compatibility problems (that I know of) on thousands of desktops
and hundreds of NT/2K servers. It also does not seem to sap workstation
performance as bad as other products we've tried.

However, I do have some issues with Symantec:

1. They are slow in coming out with virus signature updates. Best I
remember, they took almost 48 hours for definitions to catch "I Love You".
They were also slow with "Nimda".

2. If you use LiveUpdate to get new signatures, you can only schedule once a
day. We have determined (the hard way) that once per day is not often
enough. We now use a perl program to check for new signatures once every
hour.

3. Their support sucks. Their first level techs seldom know what they are
talking about, and their main objective seems to be to get the call closed
as fast as possible. If you persist, you can get answers, if you ask the
right questions and it's already been documented.

Last week, one of the signature updates went berserk and filled up the hard
drives of all workstations and servers in our organization. We called
Symantec and the first thing they said was "Funny, nobody else is having
that problem." "Oh really, then why did it take an hour to reach a tech?" We
assumed that since they caused the problem, they would be willing to help
fix it. WRONG! They basically disavowed any responsibility and forced us to
figure out a fix ourselves.

-----Original Message-----
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MacAfee or Symantec ?


We have had both...we ditched McAfee as fast as humanly possible...caused
nothing but problems.  We currently use Symantec's NAV CE (latest edition)
for all our servers and workstations, NAVMSE for the Exchange mailbox
servers and the NAV Gateway product for http/ftp traffic.

We have had NO problems!  NAV combined with SMS makes it VERY easy to have
the virus .dat updates being pushed out to all your servers and workstations
within minutes of the updates coming out.  We have never had any problems
with how fast Symantec puts out their updates.  BTW...we have not had a
single infection in this company, since before the Melissa virus.

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be considered as a formal endorsement by the aforementioned companies of any
software products recommended by this individual.

-----Original Message-----
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MacAfee or Symantec ?


If you are talking from an Administrative view I love McAfee Groupshield.
The interface is far better to deal with and they get their DAT files out
pretty quickly.  I will admit that Trend and Sophos seem to be a bit
quicker, but so far Groupshield has kept me safe.

I agree with you about NAVMSE.  It can be difficult to work with in
(especially in terms of adding file extension blocks quickly).

Hope this helps.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

> ----------
> From:         Jean-Francois Bourdeau
> Reply To:     Exchange Discussions
> Sent:         Monday, June 3, 2002 19:31
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:      MacAfee or Symantec ?
> 
> If you were force to go with one of those 2 company for an antivurus
> solution (exchange ), wich one is not too bad ?
> 
> I'm used to antigen and Ihave bad very experiences with NAVMSE.  For that
> contract the customer must go with one of those solution.
> 
> I never had to sue the MacAfee Ex  AV.  So wich one you think is not too
> bad
> ? MacAfee is working well ?
> 
> JF
> Do you know if MacAfee is a god AV for server and stations ? (the customer
> have 1500 users to protect. Server, stations and Exchange )
> 
> 
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