Yep! I think it started with Hanjii. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5
<G> The insult depended on the company now didn't it? -----Original Message----- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 12:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 hmmm, wasn't "tech buddy" basically an insult here awhile back? But you can still be my Exchange buddy! -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 Kanee, if you want to get into a pissing contest with folks on this list about the size of environments, you're a bigger bonehead that most of us already think you are. You don't know me, Andy, Lori, or Ed. It's never safe to assume anything from the email addresses people use. Many of the folks on this list who have been around for a while know who I am. Some of them know where I work. You are not one of them. Not that it matters, I am currently doing infrastructure and supportability consulting work for multiple customers with user bases ranging from 5K to 100K. The last dedicated environment I was responsible for was 60 servers, 19 sites, 4 countries, and 23K users. Not a BLB in sight. One mailbox restore in 2.5 years. You do the math. Are the tapes, time, and energy worth it? I posit that they are a waste of your employer's money. There are reasons why every person that has been at this for a while says BLB's are a bad thing. When you are hired by a company to make their environment more efficient and less costly, you do not do things like BLB's. If your employer knew how much of their resources you were wasting, I think they would be less than happy. Delusions are not a substitute for experience and good judgment. Both of which you are obviously lacking. Regarding the sheep comment. You'll be lucky if Lori doesn't turn you into one. [1] Tom. [1] Hi Lori! Can I be your tech-buddy? -----Original Message----- From: kanee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 Ao thomas shed some light and tell me what your exchange environment is...if you dont mind -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 That's right! Why do things the easy way when you can screw them up with so much style! Go on, do your BLB's. Hell, while you're at it, why not have your users copy the contents of their mailboxes into PSTs and store them in their home-directories just in case your BLB's fail! That's a good plan. But why stop there? You really ought to start clustering too; after all, we all know what a great idea that is, right? Or, you could always learn to put the cork on the fork so you don't stab yourself in the eye. That's a good idea too. Tom. -----Original Message----- From: kanee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 This has been a known issue with veritas products. The mapi32.dll file is very sensitive and reports errors on messages as cannot open and thus will show the status of backup as failed. There isnt really much you can do about this, except ask the user to delete the message its referencing in the error message from his mailbox and empty it from deleted items. I have spent some time with veritas and they point fingers at microsoft and i spoke to microsoft and they point the fingers back to veritas, veritas knows of this issue and they say they are looking at a solution and should be out in the next build for backup exec8.6, i know you use netbackup so maybe you should look into their next build for netbackup. Even though this error pops up and the overall status of the backup job shows up as failed, the backup in actuality is successful, you can restore the users mailbox and the only thing missing would be those messages that it reported as corrupted or cannot open. So dont loose any sleep over this you are fine. dONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE TELLING YOU NOT TO DO BRICK LEVEL BACKUPS, ITS ABSOLUTELY NECCESSARY TO DO BRICK LEVEL BACKUPS, IT WILL SAVE YOU SO MUCH HEADACHE AND HEART ACHE LATER..TRUST ME. -----Original Message----- From: Kulwinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 Thanks for the info. > Well then, might i suggest, as Andy and no doubt other admins would > recommend, that you should stop doing BLB's. Here are a few links for you to > ponder over. > > http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm > > http://www.exchangefaq.org/recovery/0004.php3 > > Regards > > Mr Louis Joyce > Data Support Analyst > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kulwinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 10 June 2002 15:21 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 > > > we get the error when doing a BLB only. when doing normal full backups of > the store - everything is fine - the mailbox account that we use has the > exchange service account set as the nt account, sop has the permissions > set. > > > > Im sorry, im getting confused now. Do you get the error when doing a brick > > level back-up? Or when you just back up the store on its own? > > > > Are you saying you only carry out BLB's when you get this type of error? > > > > Regards > > > > Mr Louis Joyce > > Data Support Specialist > > BT Ignite eSolutions > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kulwinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 10 June 2002 14:53 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 > > > > > > We do carryout Brick-level backups for when this occurs. > > > > > > > Are you carrying out bricklevel backups? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Mr Louis Joyce > > > Data Support Specialist > > > BT Ignite eSolutions > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kulwinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: 10 June 2002 10:14 > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 > > > > > > > > > Permissons are setup fine, because normal backups work, and also the > error > > > comes up on only some mailboxes and others work fine, which to be shows > > > that permissions are setup fine. "Service account admin" rights on the > IS > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would check all the permissions on the Information store. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Mr Louis Joyce > > > > Data Support Specialist > > > > BT Ignite eSolutions > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Kulwinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: 10 June 2002 09:55 > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: Veritas Netbackup error on MSX 5.5 > > > > > > > > > > > > We use netbackup from Veritas as a backup solution. when we perform > > > > mailbox backups we get the following error on some mailboxes. I have > > > > looked and dealt with veritas and they are saying its an exchange > issue > > > > and not veritas. Has anyone got any idea what could be causing this > and > > a > > > > possible solution. > > > > > > > > Error we get. > > > > > > > > 06/09/2002 08:14:29 mastersrv ourserver.domain.com from client > > > > ourserver.domain.com: WRN - can't open Exchange Mailbox message: > > > > ?UsersLastname, Usersfirstname? Top of Information Store? 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