I don't mean to rub salt into your wounds, but many of the gurus on this
list frequently mention the need for a lab environment, even if it
consist of only a couple of older PCs. 

Your situation could have been avoided if you restored your AD and
exchange 5.5 into a 2-PC lab environment, and performed a test upgrade
there. I was able to identify several items (mostly permissions related)
from my lab upgrade experience that needed attention before the in-place
Ex2k upgrade in my production environment.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom.Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange List
Conversation: Exchange 5.5 to 2000 Upgrade horror story
Subject: Exchange 5.5 to 2000 Upgrade horror story



This is just an informational post, you're welcome to comment on it but
I'm
not really asking any questions.  Just thought folks out there getting
ready
to upgrade might want to hear the story.  I just spent the night
upgrading
(or trying to upgrade) my exchange 5.5 server.

We have a very simple network.  1 domain.   200 users.  1 exchange
server.
2 domain controllers (not the exchange server).


Started about 2 weeks ago prepping for upgrade.  Armed with:
White Paper  "in-place upgrade from msoft exchange 5.5 to msoft
   exchange 2000" 
Q316886  "How To:  Migrate from exchange server 5.5 to exchange 
   2000 server
Q282309  "upgrading exchange server 5.5 service pack 4 to 
   exchange 2000 server"
Q295922  "considerations when you upgrade to exchange 2000 server"
Q296260  "how to configure a two-way recipient connection agreement 
   for exchange server 5.5 users"
Q253829  "description of the active directory connector 
   deletion mechanism"

And, of course, monitored this list (and the sun-exchange) one for
upgrade
ideas!


Now some of the documents have conflicting information.  If you weed
thru
the dates and such you can usually figure out what is really true.  For
example, the white paper states you MUST have at least one domain
running in
native mode, but the HOW TO describes a scenario where all domains are
in
mixed mode.

  With the domain controllers upgraded to win2k active directory (mixed
mode) last month I tackled the exchange upgrade this month.  Went thru
the
white paper and how to, updating the schema  (forestprep and domainprep)
and
ran all the tests listed in those docs to verify it was working.  Got
exactly the results they told me!

  First time I ran the actual upgrade got my first rude surprise.  My
vendor
had shipped me the Exchange 2000 standard edition media (which doesn't
really say standard on it, just Exchange 2000) and the upgrade process
stopped immediately with "You can't go from enterprise to standard you
idiot"   
  Two days later I have the correct media.  Take the server off the
network
and run an online backup (Veritas backup exec with exchange option).
Verify
the backup worked.
  With exchange services down get back on the network and run domain
tests
again.  Everything ok!
  Run the upgrade!   The upgrade goes thru several processes but hangs
at
"Setup failed while installing sub-component "Site Replication Service
with
error code 0xC007041D" -- retry or cancel"  search MS knowledge base and
looks like a permissions issue  (Q278254 and Q273730).  Hmm, make sure
the
exchange service account has all the permissions and click retry.  Still
no
work.  Rats.  Getting late so time to make the $250 call to PSS!
   PSS steps me thru lots of stuff, nothing works.  They have me change
the
service account user permissions at the ORG container from CUSTOM to
SERVICE
ACCOUNT (i'm probably not saying this exactly correct).  Still no joy.
Try
to cancel out of that error message.  Nada.  Have to task manager/shut
down
process.  They then refer me to the ultimate nightmare:  Q264309 - How
to
Roll Back A failed Upgraded from Exchange Server 5.5. to Exchange 2000.
   Yuck.  Go into registry and delete the stuff, rename the exchsrvr
folders, uninstall IIS, restart server, install IIS, re-apply all
service
packs and hotfixes (that really sucks), delete the renamed exchsrvr
folders,
setup /r exchange 5.5, restore directory and info store.
   Restoring directory service doesn't work.  Call PSS back.  Directory
service was trying to start and got hung, can't restore to hung service.
Change to manual start and reboot. Directory restores!!!
   Restore info store.  (8 gigs).  2 hours later ready to go!  (almost)
Now
the internet mail connector isn't working.  Dawn is breaking and panic
begins to creep in.   Users will be screaming in about 2 hours.  Call
PSS
again.  End up deleting the IMC and creating a new one.  They very
patiently
step me through lots of good stuff, including making sure I'm not an
internet relay and that I'm not doing circular logs.  They even stand by
while I reinstall my Anti-virus for exchange.  Everything is working.
It's
now 7am and I'm back to my original pre-upgrade status from 7pm the
night
before.

  Problem summary:  PSS thinks that the problem was caused by the mail
service account user not having complete permissions at the org
container.
By the time this was corrected by PSS (and me) the upgrade was stuck.
They
are "pretty sure" and "reasonably confident" the upgrade will work next
time.

  Moral:  MAKE BACKUPS.  PLAN FOR EXTRA TIME.  PSS is your friend (I was
on
the phone with them for about 4 hours)

This was so much fun we're planning another attempt.  This will be on a
Saturday morning so I'll have lots of time to recover (or celebrate).



Tom Gray, Network Engineer
All Kinds of Minds & The Center for Development and Learning
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Internet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AT&T Net: (919)960-8888

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