If you approach this from the standpoint of Notes vs. Exchange, you will
lose. There is just too much bad information and bigotry to have any
meaningful analysis about such a topic.

Therefore, I strongly suggest that you approach this from a business
impact point-of-view. Email migrations are EXPENSIVE, time-consuming and
have a tremendous impact upon productivity. Essentially, you are ripping
out the #1 application that your users utilize day in and day out.

Email migrations will cost anywhere from $50-$700 per seat. I do not know
anything about your environment but a good average cost of an email
migration to Exchange or Notes is likely to run around $200-$300 per user
for a typical organization. That is a costly proposition, especially if
performing a lateral technology transfer. And an Exchange to Notes
migration qualifies as a lateral technology transfer. They both
essentially perform the same tasks and regardless of who thinks one is
better than the other, all of those arguments are irrelevant.

The other item to keep in mind is that Notes is not a horrid system. Notes
has its good points and its bad points, just like Exchange. So moving
there is not the end of the world. However, I would have to question
exactly what business benefit could possibly justify the expense of such a
migration. Email migrations are things that are best left to when you HAVE
to do them because they are just too expensive otherwise.

> Notes is indeed a fine collaboration platform if you invest the
> resources to hire programmers.  Exchange is a far better e-mail
> platform.  I suspect the management making this decision are doing so
> because of business partnership (meaning political pressure) reasons.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Weinstein
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Lotus Notes help - sort of
> 
> 
> I agree with Chris - If the goal of the organization is collaboration (I
> know I will get flamed for this) nothing beats Notes - I have managed
> both environments each environment has its strength and weakness but in
> terms of true collaboration and knowledge sharing Notes/Domino is the
> stronger solution.
> 
> Domino and Exchange can coexist - Exchange handling e-mail while Domino
> for collaboration - we are running in that configuration currently
> without any problems - also to ease the pain for your users if you lose
> the battle to management you should suggest iNotes for Outlook - end
> users will still be able to have the outlook experience for accessing
> e-mail, calendar, tasks and contacts - 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:35 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Lotus Notes help - sort of
> 
> 
> IMHO it depends on what the company culture leans towards.
> If it is hardcore collaboration and mail is an afterthought then Notes
> might be the way to go; although Exchange is catching up day by day. If
> it is hardcore mail and communicaiton of the one to one, one to many
> type then Exhcange cannot be beat.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Smith Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:00 PM
> Subject: Lotus Notes help - sort of
> 
> 
> > All,
> >
> > Our corporate mangers have decided that we need to replace our
> > perfectly running Exchange system with Lotus Notes.
> >
> > The push for change is being led from the top (non-IT) managers; I
> > could
> not
> > find anyone at any IT personnel at our plants that was actually for
> > this change (Exchange to Domino)!  It probably has a lot to do with 
> > IBM heavily courting these guys; our server standard was even changed
> > to IBM (imagine that!).  We're staying with our Compaq...I mean 
> > HP...thank you very
> much!!!
> >
> > We are gathering information to present a case NOT to migrate (we're
> > not going to go quietly!).  Any info that anyone could provide (case 
> > studies, personal experience, etc.) to help strengthen our case would
> > be
> appreciated.
> > We're looking for more than just "I really hate it!"
> >
> > We're even considering keeping our Exchange server and just installing
> > a gateway to the horrid system (any experiences with that?).
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Joseph Smith
> >
> > Network Administrator
> > Perlos, Inc.
> > 5201 Alliance Gateway
> > Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
> > Work: 817-224-9012
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: exmerge help
> >
> >
> > Any Ideas? The Q article mentions:
> >
> > If you receive the following error:
> >
> > Error creating Message Service (MSPST MS)
> > Make sure that Exchange client is installed on the computer that
> Exmerge.exe
> > is running on.
> >
> > Does anyone know if they literally mean the old exchange client or
> > will Outlook 2000 suffice? Anyone have any experience in this?
> >
> >
> > ****************************************************************
> > Microsoft Exchange Mailbox Merge Program, v1.62
> > Start Logging:August 28, 2002   15:24:54
> > ****************************************************************
> > [15:24:54] Logging Level: None
> > [15:25:20] Copying data from mailbox 'Hamilton, Brenda' ('BRENDA
> HAMILTON')
> > on Server 'KAO_JCI_XCH1' to file 'E:\EXMERGEPST\BRENDA HAMILTON.PST'.
> > [15:25:20] Error creating Message Service (MSPST MS) [15:25:20] Errors
> 
> > encountered. Copy process aborted [15:25:20] 0 mailboxes successfully
> > processed. 1 errors encountered [15:25:20] Process completion time: 
> > 00:00:00
> >
> >
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