Thanks Greg.

I suspect you are right in so much as PMDF is mangling the message
somehow. I'm not sure what the latest and greatest method of integrating
Exchange and PMDF is...especially since after that Q was written, PMDF
was dropped by Innosoft and picked up by Process Software (the same guys
that support MultiNet, another pain in my side but we won't get into
that now)



-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MIME and Exchange

Well, I think that you are correct in being skeptical of PMDF. First, as
identified in the following Q-article, Innosoft does not appear to even
support this configuration.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q185107&;

Innosoft recommends connecting to Exchange via X.400, not SMTP and SMTP
connectivity to Exchange is not recommended or supported (unless
something
has changed since this Q-article.)

I would be willing to bet that the issue that you are experiencing is
very
similar in nature to the issues in the Q-article. It likely is some
issue
with the PDMF client or gateway not properly formatting the MIME
message.

Let me know if any of this is helpful or if you need some additional
information. The simple fact that Innosoft does not support your
configuration is a pretty damning evidence to the fact that PMDF is at
fault.

> Here's the story. We have essentially 2 systems...legacy system
running
> PMDF mail, and the Windows end running Exchange 2000. Users frequently
> send messages, with attachments(simple text files) or bodies full of
> text(plain...fixed width), from the legacy end, via PMDF 6.11, to the
> Exchange Server ( Windows 2000 sp2, exchange sp2) and the messages are
> read with a mix of Outlook 2000 - 2002.=20
> 
> Recently, some of these mails have not been reaching users inbox in
> Outlook. PMDF logs show that the message was sent, but no
acknowledgment
> was received from Exchange, so PMDF marks it as a failure, and backs
off
> and tries again later. SMTP logs on the Exchange Server show EHLO,
MAIL,
> RCPT commands but no DATA or QUIT commands as a successful SMTP
> conversation would.
> 
> Playing around with it some more resulted in some more data...it's
> possible to force PMDF to send the attachment as different MIME parts.
> If the attachment comes across as the 2nd MIME part it gets delivered
on
> Exchange with no problem...but if it's included as the 1st MIME part,
it
> doesn't come through. Note that the message isn't long...it just has a
> lot of columns.(224) sometimes with characters and things like tabs,
*,
> - or ~'s. If we send just a short message, and short attachment, in
the
> first MIME part, it comes across...thus leading me to believe that
> there's some kind of byte limitation in the first MIME part.
> 
> PMDF support, and the PMDF admin here thinks it's Exchange...that it's
> in "violation" of some MIME RFC...I don't know. I can grab one of the
> files that won't come over and send it to Exchange from Yahoo,
Hotmail,
> or AOL (yuck) and it comes over without a problem...I know that most
> mail services embed the attachments in the 2nd MIME part, but I think
> that's because even if you don't include any body text, they stick in
> that dumb advertising in the body of the message, thus forcing the
> attachment into MIME part #2.
> 
> They are telling me to call PSS about this...but I hesitate to do so
> because stuff like this inevitably winds up being a PMDF screw up or
> misconfiguration (in case you haven't figured it out by now, I hate
> PMDF).
> 
> Latest version of Trend Scanmail for Exchange 2000 is installed and
> running on the Exchange 2000 box.=20
> 
> Thanks in advance.

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