You show your work because that's what professionals do. Why should I assume
that you've read the same KB articles specifically that I have or have tried
the same search strings as I have? Since you want information from others,
the onus is on you to provide sufficient data so as to retrieve the
information you are requesting. Your inability to properly phrase a
technical question is not a failing on my fault (although like Tenner's
problem with the same skill, blame is most likely on public school education
and/or too many lead paint chips as a child).

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:35 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: RBL's
> 
> 
> Well let's all assume that we get the same results as you. 
> Second why should I have to show my work to you before I post 
> a message to the list. Shouldn't everyone check the web and 
> the MS KB before they post a question? The only one that's an 
> idiot is the one that makes assumptions.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: RBL's
> 
> 
> The #1 hit for me on RBL at google was this URL: 
> mail-abuse.org/rbl/. Seems like it might be a likely source 
> given that it talks about mail. I'm not a fsckign mind 
> reader; if you want me to know you searched google first then 
> show your work. Otherwise, without a longstanding history of 
> posts I've seen to the contrary I'll assume you
> (collectively) are an idiot... And based on your response 
> below, my assumption that you (individually) are an idiot, 
> was more or less spot on. 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:25 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > 
> > 
> > Yea I really didn't think we were talking about:
> > RBL ROMANTICA HOMEPAGE
> > RBL Romantica! ... The History of RBL Romantica. Once upon 
> a time, on 
> > a web page far, far away, there was a place made especially 
> for lovers 
> > of romance. ...
> > Description: Rebel newsletters, message boards and romance links.
> > Category: Arts > Literature > Genres > Romance
> > www.geocities.com/Paris/Lights/3079/ - 14k - Cached - Similar pages 
> > 
> > I CHECKED GOOGLE FIRST SO I ASKED. SHOVE THAT IN YOUR SELF 
> RIGHTEOUS 
> > ASS
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Scharff
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:23 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > 
> > 
> > www.google.com?
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:20 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ok what's an RBL. I'm not familiar with that term
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of
> > Chris Scharff
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:19 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Are you going to trust (l)[EMAIL PROTECTED] to tell you who is
> > and isn't a
> > > spammer? How about that psycho guy you saw at the movie
> > rental place
> > > last week? Those are just some of the wonderful people who
> > report to
> > > and maintain various RBLs. And you're going to block what 
> may be a 
> > > critical sales order or customer service request based on 
> their say 
> > > so?
> > > 
> > > An RBL, like communism is nice in theory. In practice, they
> > leave more
> > > than a little to be desired. Once e-mail becomes more than
> > a nice to
> > > have for a business, RBLs become a potential liability. An
> > admin who
> > > knows what they are doing, combined with software which doesn't 
> > > completely suck might be able to use them to some level 
> of positive 
> > > effect, but that'd be the exception rather than the rule.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:57 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ok please explain.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Chris Scharff
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 97.25% of mail admins are too stupid to understand what an RBL 
> > > > actually is/does. I for one hope they continue to rely on
> > > 3rd parties
> > > > to provide the functionality, otherwise I'll likely have to
> > > join you
> > > > in phoning stupid admins to tell them why RBL $foo is
> > costing their
> > > > company business.
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Chris Scharff, MVP MCSE
> > > > EMS Sales Engineer
> > > > MessageOne
> > > > 512.652.4500 x-244
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams@;gettyimages.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:42 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Still 3rd party.  I was at a meeting at MS on Monday
> > > night and the
> > > > > current stance on that is that they're "thinking about
> > possibly"
> > > > > including RBL support in a future release.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Darcy
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Matt Natkin [mailto:mnatkin@;natco-inc.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:50 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RBL's
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hey does exchange 2k have a rbl feature or is this 3rd party?
> > > 
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