If you weren't such a paranoid freak, we wouldn't like you so much. ------------------------------------------------------ Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA
> -----Original Message----- > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > I'm not discounting the fact that they want the collaborative > features, I'm > merely saying that security "should" be a part of those > features. That's > just me though... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Our premise is that we allow all customers to use MAPI > Outlook. No one wants > to only use OWA or POP3 or IMAP. They want all the > (collaboration) features > of Exchange/Outlook as per Microsoft's promotional materials. > If they only > needed to be able to send/receive mail, they would go with a > simple and less > expensive POP3 provider. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:44 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > But as an ASP wouldn't you just charge more for the > services??? Maybe I'm > just being blind, but I would think one would want to provide > a more secure > solution. Of course, added costs go with that solution, but > one would apply > those costs to their clients I would think... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:44 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > I can seee some instances where the support costs related to > helping Windows > 95 users install and configure VPN might make an ASP shudder. > InnerHost is > certainly not the only ASP to provide Exchange access in that manner. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:14 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > I would disagree with that... A VPN solution with a RADIUS server > > would fit your needs quite well... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:13 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > MAPI across the Internet. Please no flames. There is no VPN > that would > > be universal enough for all kinds of customers. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:28 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > How do they connect? VPN, Direct Dial?? > > > > Are these users POPing their email? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:12 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > Would you like me to give you an example? > > > > we are a hosting company. Customers connect to our Exchange servers > > from all over the world, from a variety of client OSes. > Their machines > > are not members of our domain. They can't possibly use our WINS. > > > > What would you do to allow their PCs to resolve the short > name of our > > Exchange server? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:31 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > No there aren't. There are times in which its easier than > doing it a > > different way, but that doesn't mean there are times in which they > > must be used. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > Atlanta, GA > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:17 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > there are some situations when one must use HOSTS file. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:07 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > Neither, use WINS and DNS, works every time... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: RBHATIA [mailto:RBHATIA@;AIIM.ORG] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:18 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > Is it the LMHOSTS file or the HOSTS file ? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:24 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > yes you should use the lmhost file on the client pc to map to your > > > exchange server thats what we use here at my office and it > > works good. > > > If you need > > > more help dont hesitate to email me. > > > > > > rich > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: JPC [mailto:jpciocon@;hotmail.com] > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:10 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > Hi, folks: > > > > > > Mixed mode, currently migrating users from 5.5 to E2k. > Remote users > > > have Outlook 2002 on W2k Professional laptops and Alcatel > > > PERMIT/Client. > > > > > > These users connect via dial-up, they can access their > > mailboxes and > > > send/receive no problem. When they use LinkSys router and > > DSL, they > > > can access our network, the internet and other network resources > > > EXCEPT for their mailboxes on the E2k server. > > Synchronization failure > > > messages are > > > related to "network problems preventing access to the Exchange > > > server" or the RPC message box "retrieving data from Exchange > > > server". These eventually fail and nothing is exchanged > between the > > > client and their server > > > mailbox. > > > > > > Has anyone seen this? If so, what tips would you suggest? > > > > > > Thanks very much. > > > -Juancho > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
