Hypothetically, if Microsoft came out with new technology that would make MAPI obsolete (something like front-end/back-end OWA with all the features of Outlook), would you then toss out the VPN and stop charging customers for it?
I am still hoping that something like this will be available, but then if I invest in VPN technologies it would be a waste of money. -----Original Message----- From: Julian Stone [mailto:julian.stone@;netstore.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook We also "allow" Mapi across the internet, but with VPN systems for those customers who are willing to pay for the added security. Some customers have even requested & got non HTTPS OWA access, where their password is sent in clear text !! Yours, Julian Stone Exchange 2000 Consultant and Webmaster Sent from Microsoft Exchange 2000 SP3 build 6249.4 Netstore - Europe's Leading Application Service Provider Tel: +44 (0) 1344 444349 Mobile: +44 (0) 7710 122 312 Fax: +44 (0) 207 681 1238 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LOCATION: http://www.netstore.net/contact/location.htm HomePage: http://www.netstore.net/ -----Original Message----- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] Sent: 30 October 2002 17:22 pm To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Been like this for 2 years now. Of course I always look for ways to make it better and safer. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook When your goal is to sell as many seats as possible @ $9.95 each, you cut corners and customers get what they pay for. Welcome to the wonderful world of capitalism. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:44 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > But as an ASP wouldn't you just charge more for the > services??? Maybe I'm just being blind, but I would think > one would want to provide a more secure solution. Of course, > added costs go with that solution, but one would apply those > costs to their clients I would think... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:44 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > I can seee some instances where the support costs related to > helping Windows 95 users install and configure VPN might make > an ASP shudder. InnerHost is certainly not the only ASP to > provide Exchange access in that manner. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:14 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > I would disagree with that... A VPN solution with a RADIUS server > > would fit your needs quite well... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:13 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > MAPI across the Internet. Please no flames. There is no VPN > that would > > be universal enough for all kinds of customers. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:28 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > How do they connect? VPN, Direct Dial?? > > > > Are these users POPing their email? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:12 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > Would you like me to give you an example? > > > > we are a hosting company. Customers connect to our Exchange servers > > from all over the world, from a variety of client OSes. > Their machines > > are not members of our domain. They can't possibly use our WINS. > > > > What would you do to allow their PCs to resolve the short > name of our > > Exchange server? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:31 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > No there aren't. There are times in which its easier than > doing it a > > different way, but that doesn't mean there are times in which they > > must be used. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > Atlanta, GA > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:17 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > there are some situations when one must use HOSTS file. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:07 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > Neither, use WINS and DNS, works every time... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: RBHATIA [mailto:RBHATIA@;AIIM.ORG] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:18 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > Is it the LMHOSTS file or the HOSTS file ? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:24 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > yes you should use the lmhost file on the client pc to map to your > > > exchange server thats what we use here at my office and it > > works good. > > > If you need > > > more help dont hesitate to email me. > > > > > > rich > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: JPC [mailto:jpciocon@;hotmail.com] > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:10 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > Hi, folks: > > > > > > Mixed mode, currently migrating users from 5.5 to E2k. > Remote users > > > have Outlook 2002 on W2k Professional laptops and Alcatel > > > PERMIT/Client. > > > > > > These users connect via dial-up, they can access their > > mailboxes and > > > send/receive no problem. When they use LinkSys router and > > DSL, they > > > can access our network, the internet and other network resources > > > EXCEPT for their mailboxes on the E2k server. > > Synchronization failure > > > messages are > > > related to "network problems preventing access to the Exchange > > > server" or the RPC message box "retrieving data from Exchange > > > server". These eventually fail and nothing is exchanged > between the > > > client and their server > > > mailbox. > > > > > > Has anyone seen this? 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