Hi All Thanks for the responses
Basically, we have 5 remote sites with this sort of number of users, this just happens to be the first site I'm working on Users also intermittently access data (CAD drawings and such) on each others file servers, which contributes to the overhead. I don't know if its different elsewhere, but in the UK, our ADSL is capped on upload at 256k, even though head office is a 2mb connection. In some basic tests, I've found performance is not acceptable, with users getting frustrated with "waiting for repsonse from exchange server" too often. This single 256k (2mb) connection (being the only one at head office) also hosts a win2k VPN server and our OWA server, neither of which generally have more than a couple of users. We may at some point install an additional line to handle these last 2 services I don't want to give users the option to work online, as giving them this option will result in some running online and some offline, gonna be less headaches for me if they're all the same for support and administration Any further responses greatfully received Nik -----Original Message----- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice@;pacbell.net] Sent: 01 November 2002 17:54 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Working Offline Of course, that would be 160K avaialable bandwidth. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 7:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Working Offline So if you, say, have 20 users in a remote office, using a high estimate, they would need a total of 160K for outlook. In that scenario, why bother with offline folders and forcing users to synchronize? Even our remote dialup users still use outlook online for the added functionality. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -----Original Message----- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:thlabse@;hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Working Offline This issue has come up a few times regarding bandwidth needed for Outlook. Seems most here agree 4K range per user. I have seen some say as high as 8K though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Winzenz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: RE: Working Offline > If they are connected using ADSL (how fast?) there is no reason why > they can't continue to work online. My office currently does not have > enough user to warrant an exchange server, so we connect remotely to > our corp HQ. We are connecting over a 384K pipe, and we all work > online. Even if the DSL > line is only a 768K line, there should be no issues with your users working > online if they want to. If you have enough users in the remote > offices to be concerned about the bandwidth, then perhaps the idea of > having a centralized exchange server should be rethought. We have > about 20 users in > this office, though, and there are no significant performance issues > with outlook and exchange. I recommend forgetting the PF idea with > calendars and > let those users who need to open other users' calendars just work > online. I > really don't think they will see a performance hit, and if so, it > should be > minimal. > > James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ > Associate Systems Administrator > InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange [mailto:exchangelist@;partition.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:41 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Working Offline > > > Ok thanks, we have remote sites that used to have local exchange > servers, and they worked online. We've now moved all mailboxes to our > central server, > seperated from our remote offices via ADSL, and remote users now work > offline, with automatic synchs every 10 mins. > > They basically open each others calenders, so I'm thinking we could achieve > the same by them using public folders instead > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Winzenz [mailto:james.winzenz@;inovis.com] > Sent: 01 November 2002 14:13 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Working Offline > > > 1) yes, they have to mark that folder as being synchronized/made > available offline. Even if you designate all folders to be made > available offline, you will have to go in and modify that > synchronization group whenever new folders or subfolders are created. > 2) no, you will not have access to other users' folders when working > offline, because you are working *offline*. If they want to connect > to other users' folders, they will have to work online. > > James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ > Associate Systems Administrator > InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange [mailto:exchangelist@;partition.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:02 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Working Offline > > > ...also, we have lost the ability to 'open other users folder' > > Is this simply not workable with offline working? Or is there a > workaround > > thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange > Sent: 01 November 2002 13:53 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Working Offline > > > Am I right in thinking that if a user working in an offline > environment creates a subfolder under their Inbox, that they need to > be taught how to mark that folder to be synchronized? > > Theres no way of making all new folders, by default, included in > synchronization > > Thanks > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
