We had frequent hardware failures when we had Exchange on the Dell hardware.  That was 
the experience that led us to focus on designing a setup that would allow for "fast" 
and reliable recoveries.  Now that we no longer use the Dell hardware for Exchange we 
have few problems.

At 03:53 PM 1/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm more interested in how often he has hardware failures. It sounds like a
>common event!
>
>------------------------------------------------------
>Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
>Sr. Systems Administrator
>Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
>Atlanta, GA
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:45 PM
>> To: Exchange Discussions
>> Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 Recovery
>> 
>> 
>> Doesn't play hell with your SIS?
>> 
>> On 1/8/03 13:20, "John W. Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hey. 
>> 
>> We have multiple small exchange servers that do their backups 
>> to recovery
>> servers that have several mirrored drives so no single 
>> production server has
>> any of its backups on the same drive mirror.  With our 
>> database size limit
>> we have one recovery server for every three mail servers. In 
>> addition we
>> have at least one "hot spare" mail server. 
>> 
>> When there is an outage we note which folks are affected and 
>> then recreate
>> their (now empty) mailboxes on the recovery server to get 
>> them back into
>> email.  We then Exmerge the backed-up mail out of the backups 
>> into the new
>> mailboxes.  Some tlog juggling has to be done in order to 
>> recover all mail,
>> but it is fairly strait forward. 
>> 
>> Each of our servers costs ~6K using "off the shelf" 
>> components. We learned
>> the value of lots of small servers when our Dell PowerEdge 
>> equipment crapped
>> out on us repeatedly early last year.
>> 
>> You could probably do this with  three servers, then.  One 
>> for production,
>> one for recovery/backups and one hot spare.  Under your limit, though?
>> Well, I guess that would depend on your shopping ability and 
>> the components
>> you choose.
>> 
>> John 
>> 
>> John W. Luther 
>> Systems Administrator 
>> Computing and Information Services 
>> University of Missouri - Rolla 
>> 
>> At 11:02 AM 1/8/2003 -0800, Newsgroups wrote: 
>> >I am not aware of a budget but when I mentioned the solution from 
>> >"Marathon Technologies" they almost fell off their chairs.  
>> I think they 
>> >want to spend somewhere from $3k to $7K (Not sure, as they 
>> have not told 
>> >me anything).  I told them that for that price the best 
>> thing they could 
>> >do is have another server and do a daily restore of the 
>> database on that 
>> >box and if the main server dies put up the new one instead.  
>> What do you 
>> >think?  Any other ideas? 
>> > 
>> >Thanks 
>> > 
>> >-----Original Message----- 
>> >From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>> >Posted At: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:48 AM 
>> >Posted To: Exchange Newsgroups 
>> >Conversation: Exchange 2000 Recovery 
>> >Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 Recovery 
>> > 
>> >Seamless, transparent, automatic and cheap? Don't believe 
>> such a high 
>> >availability solution exists. Even overspeccing a single box 
>> to ensure 
>> >it's 
>> >fully redundant gets rather expensive on a per user basis 
>> for only 180 
>> >users. What are the actual requirements surrounding the solution and 
>> >what 
>> >budget has been proposed to implement it? 
>> > 
>> >On 1/8/03 12:27, "Newsgroups" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >We are looking into different methods of recovery from 
>> Exchange 2000.  I 
>> > 
>> >know there are several ways of doing this.  We want to be able to 
>> >recover w/ out any user interaction (by that we mean it would be 
>> >transparent to them and they don't want to be down for 4 to 
>> 6 hours). 
>> >We have about 180 users.  I know we can cluster them but 
>> they don't want 
>> > 
>> >to go that route because of the cost.  Will software or hardware 
>> >replication work and be transparent or are there any other 
>> technologies 
>> >that you may be aware of? 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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