I have a customer reporting a SIS of 9.  However, summing up the mailbox
resources on the server yields a number much closer to the Information
Store file size.  So I certainly have my questions as to its usefulness.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Harford
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 Recovery


Is SIS that important?  I've always treated it as something that helps
make for more efficient delivery rather than something to save space
since over time the SIS ratio will tend towards 1:1 anyway.

See KB article 198673 for a justification of this.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Luther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 09 January 2003 16:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 Recovery


No, it doesn't.  I've asked our Exchange Admin about the SIS, but he is
out sick today.  Our current setup is quite stable now.

I failed to mention we are running Exchange 2000.  We also have an
independent box on which we run the Perl scripts that do the automated
jiggery pokery.  

At 02:45 PM 1/8/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Doesn't play hell with your SIS?
>
>On 1/8/03 13:20, "John W. Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>Hey.
>
>We have multiple small exchange servers that do their backups to
>recovery servers that have several mirrored drives so no single 
>production server has any of its backups on the same drive mirror.  
>With our database size limit we have one recovery server for every 
>three mail servers. In addition we have at least one "hot spare" mail 
>server.
>
>When there is an outage we note which folks are affected and then
>recreate their (now empty) mailboxes on the recovery server to get them

>back into email.  We then Exmerge the backed-up mail out of the backups

>into the new mailboxes.  Some tlog juggling has to be done in order to 
>recover all mail, but it is fairly strait forward.
>
>Each of our servers costs ~6K using "off the shelf" components. We
>learned the value of lots of small servers when our Dell PowerEdge 
>equipment crapped out on us repeatedly early last year.
>
>You could probably do this with  three servers, then.  One for
>production, one for recovery/backups and one hot spare.  Under your 
>limit, though? Well, I guess that would depend on your shopping ability

>and the components you choose.
>
>John
>
>John W. Luther
>Systems Administrator
>Computing and Information Services 
>University of Missouri - Rolla 
>
>At 11:02 AM 1/8/2003 -0800, Newsgroups wrote:
>>I am not aware of a budget but when I mentioned the solution from 
>>"Marathon Technologies" they almost fell off their chairs.  I think 
>>they want to spend somewhere from $3k to $7K (Not sure, as they have 
>>not told me anything).  I told them that for that price the best thing

>>they could do is have another server and do a daily restore of the 
>>database on that box and if the main server dies put up the new one 
>>instead.  What do you think?  Any other ideas?
>> 
>>Thanks
>> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Posted At: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:48 AM 
>>Posted To: Exchange Newsgroups 
>>Conversation: Exchange 2000 Recovery 
>>Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 Recovery 
>> 
>>Seamless, transparent, automatic and cheap? Don't believe such a high 
>>availability solution exists. Even overspeccing a single box to ensure

>>it's fully redundant gets rather expensive on a per user basis for 
>>only 180 users. What are the actual requirements surrounding the 
>>solution and what
>>budget has been proposed to implement it? 
>> 
>>On 1/8/03 12:27, "Newsgroups" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>We are looking into different methods of recovery from Exchange 2000.
>>I
>> 
>>know there are several ways of doing this.  We want to be able to 
>>recover w/ out any user interaction (by that we mean it would be 
>>transparent to them and they don't want to be down for 4 to 6 hours). 
>>We have about 180 users.  I know we can cluster them but they don't 
>>want
>> 
>>to go that route because of the cost.  Will software or hardware 
>>replication work and be transparent or are there any other 
>>technologies that you may be aware of?
>> 
>> 
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