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----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Deckler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 11:29 AM Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects > And everyone could do everything that they do now in terms of helping > people WITHOUT the MVP "status". So what is the fascination with it? It is > ego or something, it mystifies me. I keep hearing "MVP's are so helpful", > yadda yadda. But there is nothing stopping you from doing exactly the same > things that you are doing WITHOUT being an MVP. > > Lawyers have actual ethics, written down and agreed to by everyone in the > profession and if you violate those ethics, there are consequences, just > ask Bill Clinton. There is nothing even close in IT. People may have > personal their own personal ethics, but who cares? > > As long as the IT industry is tied to vendors and tools, it will continue > to be polarized and it will continue to be a trade. The MVP program is > part of this problem. It is not the entire part, but I think that it is > much more insidious than going to a trade show and picking up free stuff, > because it is the granting of a title. That, in and of itself is a big > problem. > > > You are so wrong that it pains me to even read your e-mail. I've gotten more > > critical feedback from those folks that are MVP's than most others. Not just > > generalities that Outlook doesn't have very good backwards compatibility, > > but why the development team did that and why they think they were wrong. > > They've said it in public forums as well. Ask a lawyer if they've received > > anything for free and they'll answer, damn right they have. I'm stunned that > > you would say that I have no ethics or are you just throwing around > > generalities in a trollish way? A vendor can give me a shirt, or a coffee > > mug doesn't mean that I won't call them to the carpet on their product. Just > > ask ANY of my vendors. If there is something wrong with their product or it > > doesn't do something I want it to do, then I let them know to fix their BAS. > > > > The title of MVP doesn't mean Microsoft pet. It's given to those people that > > have demonstrated knowledge in the field and a willingness to help others > > get the most from the product. If Chris or Ed or Missy or the Andy's or > > Martin or Robert or Tom tells me that something works or doesn't work, I > > know it's from their belief in what they've seen in the product. Not from > > something that the vendor told them to say. I've never seen one of them not > > "tell it like it is". I've seen them be more critical of Microsoft than most > > anyone else. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:50 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects > > > > > > So, you are going to tell me that you have never received any sort of > > compensation at all for being an MVP. I am talking T-Shirts, plastic toys, > > anything and even the TITLE of MVP. If you receive ANY FORM OF COMPENSATION, > > it is a conflict of interest. Plain and simple. Ask any lawyer if they are > > allowed to accept ANYTHING for free. The answer is absolutely not. > > > > In IT, it is a different story and the difference is because IT is a trade > > and lawyers are professionals. As long as we in IT continue to operate in > > this mode, we will be seen as trades-people, the air-conditioning repair guy > > or plumber, not professionals. > > > > The MVP program is a horrible, horrible insidious device that will help keep > > IT at the trade level. Plus, once you accept the title, you are now the > > property of the vendor. You will consciously or unconsciously have a bias > > toward that vendor and keeping that title. This means that you will not > > "tell it like it is" in public and instead voice concerns in private to your > > vendor. > > > > If you all want to be trades-people instead of professionals, then keep on > > with your MVP program. I tend to believe that the entire IT industry is > > irrevocably broken. Compare it to engineers, lawyers and other professionals > > and it does not stack up well. And that is sad, because we could be > > professional, but we have no ethics. > > > > > > > I'm very interested to know what secret compensation he is speaking > > > of. Deckler, care to elaborate? > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
