Your best solution is to find out the source of those messages, and then
block the domain,

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woods, Tony
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Not Open Relay, but...


Thanks, Jim. Just so I'm clear, it's not uncommon to have over 10,000
messages sitting in the IMS queue after 8hrs? I have another site where
the IMS has hardly any messages sitting in there so this is why I am
concerned. What if I changed the MX record's IP address, would that help
slow it down a little or are they just using dfg.com?

Cheers,
Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Not Open Relay, but...


Tony,

Open up the properties page of your IMS Connection, go to the Internet
Mail tab and click on the Notifications... button.  My guess would be
that you have the "Always send notifications when non-delivery reports
are generated" radio button clicked.  If that is the case, select the
second choice and uncheck the options that you don't want.

I receive anywhere from 3,000 to 10,000 ndrs a day, from spammers trying
to brute force their spam through the system.  I track the NDRs to
create a spreadsheet for management, showing them the exponential growth
of spam and the load it is placing on the servers, in order to justify
new servers.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Woods, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Not Open Relay, but...


I've tested via telnet and from home using Outlook Express and it always
replies with 550 so I think I'm good there. Just the amount of mail is
insane. I came in this morning at there's over 10,000 in the IMS Queue.
I guess eventually it will slow down...

Thanks to all.

Cheers,
Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Mills [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 5:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Not Open Relay, but...


For #3, what you are seeing is spammer trying to find valid addresses
@dfg.com by simply guessing addresses and trying them, your best bet
would be to turn off the notification on your IMS for "E-mail address
could not be found".  For #2, yes they will sit in the queue until they
are delivered or just time out.  For #1, are you sure you're not an open
relay?  See
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Preventing_Third_Party_Relaying_In_M
S_Ex
change_Server_55.html.

- Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Woods, Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: Not Open Relay, but...


> Hi John,
>
> Is this in response to my question #3? If so, does everyone receive
> over 2000 messages every hour in the 'Admin' mailbox with a subject 
> line of
> 'Notification: Inbound Mail Failure"? I understand getting some but 
> over 2000 an hour? Each of these messages is addressed to 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever. It's just random letters in front of the 
> domain name @dfg.com
and
> there's just a ton of them. Thanks for any ideas, all.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:46 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Not Open Relay, but...
>
>
> NDR's (non-delivery reports) from spammer's probably.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Woods, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:23 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Not Open Relay, but...
>
>
> Hello,
>
> NT 4 SP6a and Exchange 5.5 SP4. Domain in question is DFG.com
>
> I've just taken over a site's Exchange server and have noticed
> something strange. It's been sometime since I had to play with 
> Exchange this deep
but
> the Queues on my IMS keep filling up with 1000's of emails. We're not
> an Open Relay that I can tell (I've tested) but there's just a ton of
'Outbound
> Message Awaiting Delivery' with originator <> and Destination Host of
> different .com's. There is a ton of Inbound Mail Failures in the 
> 'Admin' mailbox for delivery failures as well. My three questions are:
>
> 1) Are these messages that are trying to relay but failing?
>
> 2) If so, are they just going to sit in the Queue for the default
> time?
>
> 3) For the Inbound Mail Failures,  a lot of them are going to bogus
> addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where are these all 
> coming from?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
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