Hmmm.. You've got some interesting lawyers then...

Anyway, why not script something like ExMerge or the Mailbox Cleanup agent
to delete all VM's older than XX days?

I'd also suggest getting a clarification of "longer than needed" from the
attorneys. That's vague, even from a lawyer!

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wendel, Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Back up Exchange WITHOUT backing up voice mail 
> from Cisco Unified Messaging
> 
> 
> Roger and others,
> 
> We're the largest utility in the Pacific Northwest.  We have 
> a high legal profile.
> 
> Per our attorneys, we are not to back up voice messages 
> longer than needed for disaster recovery.
> 
> If I put them in a second store, I can back that store up 
> just enough (say, 1-2 weeks) for disaster recovery, but not 
> long term, like the years we are required by FERC to keep 
> tapes of our email.
> 
> What we want to avoid is having to go through or hand over 
> voice mail during legal discovery process.  Which we'd have 
> to do if they were backed up as part of the regular email 
> store.  But if they're off in their own store, we just don't 
> back up that store (or keep tapes for very long), and there 
> isn't a problem.
> 
> The problem with doing this, as I said below - is that 
> Cisco's UM doesn't support secondary authentication, so I do 
> what I'd originally planned, which is, make a secondary 
> mailbox for voice and just have people attach to it; it has 
> to be the primary account people are logged in as, or we lose 
> some UM functionality.
> 
> And I really don't want to write some kludged up event sink 
> based on message class to check if its a voice mail or not, 
> and if not, to rewrite the From line and move the sent 
> message over to the non-voice mail Exchange mailbox.
> 
> So I'm hoping someone has another idea.  Because I'm stuck.
> 
> Jesse Wendel
> Sr. Technical Systems Analyst
> Primary Messaging/DNS Administrator
> www.pse.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 5:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Back up Exchange WITHOUT backing up voice mail from Cisco
> Uni fied Messaging
> 
> 
> Yeah. Back it up as part of the store. What's the big deal? 
> Its going to be
> backed up anyway, and going to take the same amount of time 
> and space. Why
> are you making it needlessly complex?
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wendel, Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:25 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Back up Exchange WITHOUT backing up voice mail from 
> > Cisco Unified Messaging
> > 
> > 
> > I'm trying to figure out how to back up Exchange Servers 
> > WITHOUT backing up voice mails placed into Exchange by 
> > Cisco's Unified Messaging (UM).
> > 
> > I had thought of routing messaging from the UM to a separate 
> > store - creating a secondary mailbox for each user - say, 
> > John User (juser) and John User - Voice (juser-v) - and grant 
> > permissions to juser to access juser-v.  Unfortunately, UM is 
> > junk software and doesn't support secondary authentication.  
> > It requires one to be logged in with the juser-v account.
> > 
> > And if I log everyone in as juser-v and let their secondary 
> > be juser, then every time they send mail, it isn't in the 
> > proper sent items mail box, and it isn't coming from the 
> > appropriate address.  And obviously people aren't going to 
> > use the FROM box and manually move items from the one Sent 
> > Items folder to the other.
> > 
> > I'm now reduced to speculating about writing code using the 
> > event sink, based on the class used by UM, to set where mail 
> > goes, and who it is from, but grrr, what a kludge.
> > 
> > So I don't know what to do.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > Jesse Wendel
> > Sr. Technical Systems Analyst
> > Primary Messaging/DNS Administrator
> > www.pse.com
> > 
> > 
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