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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:08 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Anyone else having trouble with AOLs new SPAM rules?
> 
> 
> So they're blocking based on an RBL (or something else) but 
> not on the fact
> that the IP address is dynamic.  My approach would be to cajole my
> correspondents to switch from AOL, who seems to think it *IS* 
> the Internet.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Roger Seielstad
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 8:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Anyone else having trouble with AOLs new SPAM rules?
> 
> One of the RBL's (MAPS, I think) maintains a blackhole list 
> that includes
> all known IP dial up pools. Kinda an interesting concept, really.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:37 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Anyone else having trouble with AOLs new SPAM rules?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   This is going over my head, I'm afraid. How can the 
> accepting host 
> > know that the sending server has a dynamic IP address?  Surely it's 
> > not changing in the middle of a mail send?  Is the 
> recipient doing a 
> > reverse DNS lookup or something?
> > 
> >   Trying to learn something in Pittsburgh  Jim Helfer
> > 
> > 
> > Greg Sachs wrote:
> > > I've had problems from a dynamic dns site on a cable modem
> > sending to
> > > aol for a long time.   ISP's smtp server is the only way to go -
> > > smarthost is one way, you can also set up an smtp 
> connector to send 
> > > mail to specific domains to your isp's smtp server such as
> > aol.com.  
> > > Your choice if you trust your isp's mail server more, or
> > your ability
> > > to keep the list on your connector current for domains that won't 
> > > except your outgoing email directly
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 9:12 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Anyone else having trouble with AOLs new SPAM rules?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Use your ISP's SMTP server as a smarthost for all outgoing mail.
> > > 
> > > Steven
> > > ---
> > > Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Network Administrator 
> > > The Key School, Annapolis Maryland
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bubba G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 9:12 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Anyone else having trouble with AOLs new SPAM rules?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have architected for Fortune 10s... but this time I 
> have a small 
> > > server on a home network. I use DynDNS.ORG to update the A and MX 
> > > records. AOL has just instituted a new policy rejecting any email 
> > > server coming from a dynamic IP address. I have emailed 
> them asking 
> > > about this but I know they will respond with something 
> like "We are 
> > > attempting to reduce SPAM"... even though I reject SPAM on my 
> > > server's SMTP connector based on IP because SPAMmers 
> typically use 
> > > the same ISPs and static IP addresses... and there are only
> > a handful
> > > of ISPs that allow spammers knowingly.
> > > 
> > > Anyone else had problems with this lately... or more importantly 
> > > found a way around it (other than getting/paying for a static IP 
> > > address)?
> > > 
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