I'm considering going with an outside SPAM/AV company.

However, my manager feels that we don't need to put AV on our Exchange
server if we do...so I am considering going just with AV/SPAM on our
Exchange server and keeping everything in house.

I was considering using MX Logic Defense Level 3 and using Antigen on
Exchange server.

I can't convince him that both would be the way to go...both meaning
SPAM/AV outside and AV on Exchange.

Now, I am considering just Antigen with the SPAM agent added to it.

Anyone got any good points about having both SPAM/AV outside and AV on
Exchange that I can bring up to my boss so he can see the added value?

His points were...you mean they won't be able to do it as well as we
can...then we need to not use them!


Thank you,
 
Ron Crumbaker, MCP


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Brownell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV/Spam scanning services


I see the outsourced AV as another layer that gives me greater defense
in depth (I have Trend on every platform). Also their use of multiple
and different AV scan engines gives me another (admittedly small) edge.
I'll take whatever edge I can get, having been hosed by Iluv you and
Funlove. 

One of my concerns about using this type of service is latency. How much
longer does it take a message to get through? Are any of the vendors
better or worse in this regard?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV/Spam scanning services

My point is that you're spending money on an internal AV product for
mail (i.e. ScanMail or Antigen) plus the second layer at the gateway -
either internal or external. My caution is geared towards those who
think that they ONLY need the outsourcer for AV.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:45 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: AV/Spam scanning services
> 
> 
> It's not necessarily about saving money though right? Scanning at the
> gateway (in-house or outsourced) can be a valid additional level of 
> protection. A significant number of our customers use some form of 
> gateway scanner[1] in addition to their server and desktop based AV 
> solutions.
> 
> [1] MessageLabs, MailSweeper, Trend's Instercan, et al.
> 
> > From: Roger Seielstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:10:22 -0400
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: AV/Spam scanning services
> > 
> > There are some discussions of a few of them in the archives.
> > 
> > Personally, I'm not a fan of outsourced anti-spam, but
> that's in part
> > because we're a heavily email dependent company and so we
> can justify the
> > expense of in house measures to combat those issues.
> > 
> > As a side note - outsourced antivirus doesn't save money -
> you still need to
> > have an inhouse AV product for email, because scanning at
> the gateway isn't
> > enough.
> >
> 
> 
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