It's "you're" not "your". And don't blame me for your inability to RTFM.
This is indeed a peer support newsgroup; if you don't like my responses feel
free to add me to your killfile. I couldn't care less.

Indicating I don't have time to go troubleshoot free/busy issues on my
machine is hardly an attempt to blow off about how important I am. I was
simply pointing out the only unexpected issue I've seen with the Exchange
update for Entourage. The "issue" you describe seems to be expected behavior
based on the help files, but I guess you're too important to read those and
need the rest of us to do your work for you.


> From: "Mike Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:08:13 -0500
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: New Entourage
> 
> Well your a happy guy. Thanks for the great answer there. For a minute I
> thought this a group to help each other out, not blow off about how
> important we are.
> 
> Since I am not at home and not near a Mac with Entourage installed, I cant
> really read the help file right now. I figured if you didn't see the same
> issue I would dig further, if you didn't see the same issue, I wouldn't
> worry about it right now.
> 
> I would figure the appropriate response would be:
> 
> 1. I don't have any public folders of calendar or contact type so I cant
> test it
> 
> OR
> 
> 2. Yes/No
> 
> Since you were so helpful, I wont comment on my status of the free/busy
> server thing either since I have cooler things to play as well.
> 
> =)
> 
> -Mike Carlson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.uselessthoughts.com
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:48 PM
> Subject: Re: New Entourage
> 
> 
>> Do I see.... Have you read the help files yet? The client is working as I
>> would expect it to work for me at the moment based on my reading of the
> help
>> files. With the exception of the free/busy server which I haven't had time
>> to look into.[1]
>> 
>> [1] Since Macs aren't supported on my network, it has pretty low
>> priority.[2]
>> [2] Plus it's my Mac, which puts it even lower on the priority list.[3]
>> [3] And I don't really care all that much because I'm playing with cooler
>> Exchange tools for both the PC and Mac at the moment than Entourage, which
>> at the moment is working 'good enough' for my needs.
>> 
>>> From: "Mike Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:24:45 -0500
>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: New Entourage
>>> 
>>> Do you see the same issues of Calendar or Contact type public folders
>>> looking like IMAP folders and not actual contacts or calendar entries?
>>> 
>>> -Mike Carlson
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> http://www.uselessthoughts.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: New Entourage
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> It works just fine in E2K. The Entourage help files contain quite a bit
> of
>>>> information, might try reading those for what the expected
> functionality
>>> is.
>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Atkinson, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 17:18:53 +0100
>>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok, can anyone confirm how it works with E2K?
>>>>> 
>>>>> With 5.5 you get what looks like an IMAP connection...
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Sent: 06 August 2003 16:41
>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage
>>>>> 
>>>>> Its designed for E2K or higher
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:37 AM
>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage
>>>>> 
>>>>> I got the same results you did, using Entourage with an Exchange 5.5
>>> server.
>>>>> Does it maybe work better with 2000?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Peter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 5:38
>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>>> Subject: Re: New Entourage
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I myself don't like the Entourage update for Office X. I don't get
>>> anything
>>>>> more than I did with IMAP it seems. Any public folders that are set to
>>> be of
>>>>> Calendar type or Contact type don't show up correctly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there a list of specific benefits of the update over just using
> IMAP?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Mike Carlson
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> http://www.uselessthoughts.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Atkinson, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:11 AM
>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm thinking about trying out citrix....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> Sent: 05 August 2003 19:44
>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So are OSX Macs therefore doomed to OWA, or is there an alternative?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:44 PM
>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think they did away with Outlook because they were in the
>>>>>>> semi-absurd situation of maintaining three entirely different
>>>>>>> mail clients for the Mac, none of which made everyone, happy,
>>>>>>> and two of which weren't OS X native, so they needed major
>>>>>>> upgrades, and were free. I don't find it at all
>>>>>>> incomprehensable that they'd concentrate their resources on
>>>>>>> the product that generates some revenue. As far as
>>>>>>> Entourage's new Exchange awareness goes, it's about what
>>>>>>> you'd expect from a point upgrade.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Peter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:25
>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't doubt it.  That makes perfect business sense.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:43 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My personal opinion is that they did away with Outlook for
>>>>>>>> the Mac because
>>>>>>>> OS X, especially Jaguar (10.2.x) is the first OS with a
>>>>>>>> legitimate chance of
>>>>>>>> displacing Microsoft from their dominance of the desktop.
>>>>>>> It meets the
>>>>>>>> requirements of having Microsoft Office (Word/Excel/etc).
>>>>>>>> Therefore, the
>>>>>>>> only missing app is a full blown Outlook client. Its
>>>>>>>> Microsoft's only way to
>>>>>>>> stop the tide without giving up their entire Mac offering.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Roger
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
>>>>>>>> Sr. Systems Administrator
>>>>>>>> Inovis Inc.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:11 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This is more venting than any serious question:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What about MAPI? (Outlook for OfficeX-1)
>>>>>>>>> What about RPC over HTTP? (I know that would have to be coded
>>>>>>>>> from scratch)
>>>>>>>>> You must enable IMAP on your Exchange server?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Why did they get rid of the Outlook product?  Why make an
>>>>>>>>> organization with
>>>>>>>>> Macs go through so many hoops?  It's not like they have to
>>>>>>>>> code from scratch.
>>>>>>>>> It makes no sense.  The whole idea is to make the products
>>>>>>>> across both
>>>>>>>>> platforms the same or mostly the same.  They didn't take Word
>>>>>>>>> or Excel,
>>>>>>>>> retool it, take out some important features and call it
>>>>>>>>> something else, did
>>>>>>>>> they?  Keerist!!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: New Entourage
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Depends on how one defines Exchange aware. If by Exchange
>>>>>>>>>> aware, you mean
>>>>>>>>>> 'it's Outlook' then no. If understanding free/busy and
>>>>>>>> and automatic
>>>>>>>>>> configuration of address book and other account settings to
>>>>>>>>>> support Exchange
>>>>>>>>>> qualifies, then maybe.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Erik Sojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:29:57 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't looked at it yet, but it wouldn't be
>>>>>>>>>> Exchange-aware if it was,
>>>>>>>>>>> right?  When we looked at this for our lone Mac user ~18
>>>>>>>>>> months ago we had to
>>>>>>>>>>> settle for the previous version of Outlook and the user had
>>>>>>>>>> to switch between
>>>>>>>>>>> OSX for Office and OS9 for Outlook since we didn't want to
>>>>>>>>>> open up IMAP or
>>>>>>>>>>> POP3 for him.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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