I just saw this Andy, you are so true that is what the legal group would
say.  I did however turn this around here, we are subject to FOIA, I was
able to make the argument against .pst's under that in that we could never
show due diligence to giving FOIA access if we had 600 pst files running
around.  HIPAA helped drive the nail in the .pst coffin.


-----Original Message-----
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Race between client rules and BES server


1. making the evidence 10 times more expensive for someone to discover

</kidding>

These things always seem to come from legal.  But what's worse? Having
one set of Exchange backup tapes subpoenaed or 5000 PC hard drives?

It's interesting to see how the timeframe has changed over the years.
It seems like in the past everyone was trying to delete everything after
30 days, and now it's 60 days.

This is an example of people not understanding what an information
economy is.  A very sad example I suppose.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Waters, Jeff
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Race between client rules and BES server

Give me one business (I was going to say good, but that's not possible)
reason for this, and I'll give you ten times that many technical reason
why
the PST solution is a bad one.  I hope you went down kicking and
screaming
on this one.  I for one would also be polishing up my resume and kicking
down some doors as well.  This is only going to get ugly for you from
this
point out.
Good Luck......

-----Original Message-----
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Race between client rules and BES server


They are still good for the calendar and contacts, which are exempt from
the
60 day limit.   

-----Original Message-----
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Race between client rules and BES server

You might as well retire all your Exchange servers and replace them with
something cheaper. Woohoo! Save some money, maybe they will give it back
to
you as a bonus!

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov, Exchange MVP
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion

-----Original Message-----
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Race between client rules and BES server

Due to new corporate policy, I just moved all my mail from the server
(Exchange 5.5sp4) to local PST files.  I had several rules to move
mailing
lists emails to server folders that now point to local PST folders.
Before,
these mailing list messages never showed up in the inbox, and the
Blackberry
server (BES server) never saw them (and thus never sent them to my
blackberry).  Now when one of these emails arrives, it briefly appears
in
the inbox before my PC has a chance to grab it and move it to a local
PST.
This means that some of the time the BES server sees it and forwards it
to
my blackberry.  Does anyone know of any tricks to avoid this?  I may
have to
switch these back to the server as I can keep stuff there less than 60
days
old but this means that I would need to have to manually archive these
before the server deletes them.

Tom

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