strong passwords = post-it(tm) notes on monitors = weak passwords ;-)

Merry Christmas everyone,

Phil

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Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Crowley
> [MVP]
> Sent: 18 December 2003 21:32
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay/Spamcop
> 
> 
> Strong passwords mean much more than forced changes.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:49 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay/Spamcop
> 
> I agree with Ben.  My Exchange 2000 box at my last company 
> was setup to
> allow realaying after sucessfuly authentication because I had 
> POP3 clients
> at other offices that had no other SMTP gateway.  Disabling the Guest
> account and forcing the users to change passwords every 30 
> days kept our
> risk at a minimum.  We got tagged as a relay once, but 
> forcing user password
> changes on the spot fixed the problem.   
> 
> Eric Fretz
> 
> L-3 Communications
> ComCept Division
> 2800 Discovery Blvd.
> Rockwall, TX 75032
> tel:   972.772.7501
> fax:  972.772.7510
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay/Spamcop
> 
> 
> I still think you are smoking crack on this, Greg.  I have 
> never seen a
> properly configured Exchange 2000 server relay UNLESS a user 
> account was
> compromised, or the guest account was enabled.  I've tested 
> it and tested
> again, and never found Exchange to relay with those settings. 
> 
> 
> Ben Winzenz
> Network Engineer
> Gardner & White
> (317) 581-1580 ext 418
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:37 AM
> Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
> Conversation: Open Relay/Spamcop
> Subject: RE: Open Relay/Spamcop
> 
> 
> Hey, thanks for the confirmation. People have told me that I 
> am smoking
> crack and that the Exchange servers were horribly 
> misconfigured. It's nice
> to know that I am not smoking crack.
> 
> > I concur with greg ... our server had those settings and we 
> were being
> 
> > used as a relay ... turned off "Allow all computers which 
> successfully
> 
> > authenticate to relay, regardless of the list above." and 
> that stopped
> 
> > it ...
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:17 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Open Relay/Spamcop
> > 
> > 
> > This may or may not be the problem, but I have seen spammers able to
> > relay off an Exchange server if the following configuration applies:
> > 
> > 1. If "Anonymous access" is turned on. SMTP Virtual Server 
> properties,
> 
> > Access page, Authentication. 2. And, "Allow all computers which
> > successfully authenticate to relay, regardless of the list 
> above." is 
> > checked. SMTP Virtual Server properties, Access page, Relay.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello All and Happy Holidays!
> > >=20
> > > I have a colleague whos Exchange 2000 server is being reported as
> > >Open
> > 
> > > Relay by spamcop for the past month.  I have tested his 
> relay by=20
> 
> > >setting up a POP account in Outlook, putting the server that is
> > >being=20  reported as Open relay as my Outgoing SMTP server. =3D20 
> > >=20  When I try to send a message using Outlook, I get a return 
> > >message
> > that
> > > 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay.      I am relieved that it could not
> relay.
> > > That is good, however, why then is spamcop still reporting it to
> > >be=20  open relay? =3D20 =20  I have checked (over the 
> phone) all his
> 
> > >Virtual SMTP Server settings=20  to verify correct configuration.
> > >Everything seems to be "checked" or=20  "unchecked" as 
> recommended by
> 
> > >Microsoft.
> > >=20
> > > We have Stopped/Started Services for SMTP =20  The Exchange 2000
> > >server is behind a NAT and I have looked into the=20  
> possibility of 
> > >this.  I have been out on the spamcop site and for the=20  
> life of me
> 
> > >cannot find a way to make them check the server again to=20  see if
> > >it is closed relay like ORDB does. =3D20 =20  Any ideas or 
> > >comments???? =3D20 =20 =20 =20  Samantha Bridges  Communications 
> > >Technician  Macomb Intermediate School District
> > > 44001 Garfield Road
> > > Clinton Township  MI  48038-1100
> > > (586) 228-3300
> > >=20
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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