Sorry - speed read this before I replied - based my answer on your statement
that you *have* your jacket - read "resign" as "rule".

My point about probity with public funds stands but that case does show that
in some areas people are more ethical than you.  (You do have that jacket,
right?)

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 December 2003 18:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


I've argued the theory on this too many times now. Let me provide a
specific example. At time, I wear a Novell leather jacket. I received this
jacket at the end of a project for the State of Ohio. Basically, the State
of Ohio gave Novell something like $1 million for implementing a G-NOC. I
worked on this project and at the end Novell gave out about 50 of these
leater jackets to people that worked on the project in this big huge
ceremony that was held. The director at the State of Ohio was forced to
resign over accepting his leather jacket because of conflict of interest
rules.

So, the State of Ohio had ALREADY paid Novell ALL of the money and THEN
Novell gave out these gifts and the director at the State of Ohio was
STILL found to have violated conflict of interest rules.

Does that make anything more clear?



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