And we all know how secure uncle is:

        http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/11/09/011109hnflunk.xml

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:08 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Exchange SMTP Routing
> 
> 
> all of your points are very good yet moot.  The only way you 
> can be totally
> secure is if they are not attached to the internet in any way 
> shape or form
> and there are no machines attached to the network with 
> removable drives or
> media.  It comes from uncle sams secure network policies. 
> uncle sam won't
> use nt for a secure server period.  Haven't been involved for 
> a few years
> but that was gospel.
> Matt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Drewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:49 PM
> Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing
> 
> 
> > and the skill of the administrator doing the setting.
> >
> > -- Drew
> > ********************************
> > Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
> > "Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great
> > intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality 
> for those who
> seek to
> > change a world that yields most painfully to change." - 
> Robert Kennedy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:39 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing
> >
> >
> > That would depend which Unix server you set up.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:36 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing
> >
> >
> > I concur. It is all about who is running it.
> > If I setup a Unix server today, the thing would be about as 
> secure as a
> > house with no doors or windows, but the holes in the wall for them.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:29 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing
> >
> >
> > If you want to show me documentation for that, I'll happily 
> read it.  It
> > won't change my opinion that NT is just as secure as UNIX, if you
> > administer it properly.
> >
> > -- Drew
> > ********************************
> > Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
> > The War on Terrorism Needs a Marshall Plan:
> > http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11766
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:20 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing
> >
> >
> > If this is true, then why does Microsoft themselves use 
> UNIX for their
> > SMTP firewalls?  But we digress away from the charter of this list.
> >
> > --
> > Matt Lathrum
> > General Dynamics Decision Systems
> >              When cryptography is outlawed,
> >              bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:08 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing
> >
> > I agree - without exception.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:44 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing
> >
> >
> > NT Servers can be just as secure as Unix servers, if you apply the
> > proper patches.  You do apply the proper patches, don't you?
> >
> > -- Drew
> > ********************************
> > Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
> > TEN THINGS YOU CAN DO TO PREVENT WAR
> > http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11597
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:37 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange SMTP Routing
> >
> >
> > Are you sure you want to put NT machines on the firewall?  Shouldn't
> > there be UNIX machines there for better security?
> >
> > --
> > Matt Lathrum
> > General Dynamics Decision Systems
> >              When cryptography is outlawed,
> >              bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:53 AM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Exchange SMTP Routing
> >
> > Currently we run;
> >
> > Exchange 5.5 SP4
> > WinNT4.0 Sp 6A
> >
> > We also currently have our mail routed to us and 
> scanned\filtered  by an
> > outside company which costs $$.  We are looking at building a server
> > that just does SMTP relay\filtering\scanning and put it in 
> our DMZ.  We
> > are also looking at putting Trend virus scanning on the box 
> so that our
> > mail is scanned by two different AntiVirus companies before 
> delivered to
> > the users desktops.  Our logic behind this is sometimes 
> Trend comes out
> > with a pattern a little quicker than Symantec, so we do 
> both.  We also
> > do attachment filtering with Norton For Exchange.
> >
> > I guess I have a couple of questions about this;
> >
> > 1. What is everyone else using for SMTP relay.  What 
> software, location
> > of server, etc.
> >
> > 2. What is the best SMTP relay software\hardware?  Should I just use
> > another install of Exchange on a regular server`?
> >
> > Any suggestions or relevant web sites will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Shawn
> >
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