Sounds like you may have a communications problem. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail


Me preaching to users: "as a preventative measure against computer viruses,
please don't access your web-based personal mail accounts like Yahoo or
Hotmail from the corporate desktop."
What (several of) the users hear: "please don't open any mail if it's from
someone with a hotmail or yahoo account as all these messages will have a
computer virus"

<sigh>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brent Hudson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: December 13, 2001 3:11 PM
> To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject:      RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
> 
> Just my 2c (for what its worth)... educating users and hammering your
> point home re the trials and tribulations of viruses does also help... the
> only drawback is the 1000 messages you get "er.. is this attachment ok to
> open...."
>  
> later
> Brent
>  
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent: 13 December 2001 09:01
>       To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>       Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
>       
>       
>       We 'just' changed over to the Trend suite from *cough* CA's wannabe
> version of antivirus. Other then the fact that I got the message
> attachment blocking up and running less then an hour before the goner
> virus starting hammering our server, it was not too painful to configure.
>       Some of the trial's and tribulations of the install:
>       The tvcs console wants a default password...not the one you
> installed it with.....and of course it is not in their documentation, but
> IS on their knowledge base......yippee...esp when you discover that after
> totally un-installing and re-installing because you think you've made a
> mistake. The console itself...well...personally I don't like the lack of
> functionality that it provides (when you compare it to the individual
> product consoles), but...it does kind of work.
>       So far, so good! Its pushing the install to the NT machines without
> too many problems, and will even uninstall CA's product first before it
> installs (very slick!) and the definitions are deployed pretty quickly to
> the machines when they come online in the am.
>       The server protect piece works pretty smoothly as well and yes, you
> can push out the install to remote servers fairly easily.
>       It took us a while, but we finally managed to get corp to make a
> wise decision! *grin*
>        
>       Two thumbs up to Trend!!
>        
>       Smile Lots!
>       Cameron
>        
> 
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: Crouthamel, Jonathan
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>               Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:31 PM
>               To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>               Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
>               
>               
>               Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie
> updating desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a
> similar product to NAI's EPO?
>                
>               Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been
> narrowed down to two products.
>                
>               Jonathan
> 
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From: Moody, Jacqueline
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>                       Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PM
>                       To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>                       Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
>                       
>                       
> 
>                       We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems
> with it.  The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which
> slowed some logons down to a crawl.  We now have Trend deployed throughout
> the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange)
> and are very, make that extremely happy with it.  For Exchange, I wouldn't
> look at anything other than Trend or Antigen.  
> 
>                       Jackye 
> 
>                       -----Original Message----- 
>                       From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] 
>                       Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM 
>                       To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
>                       Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
> 
> 
>                       We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I
> have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up
> for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer
> file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these
> other products and how have you found them? That was the one and only
> thing I liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor.
> 
>                       Jonathan 
> 
>                       -----Original Message----- 
>                       From: Bob t. Berge [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] 
>                       Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM 
>                       To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
>                       Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
> 
> 
>                       Thanks!! :) 
> 
>                       PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen
> part, I read newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;) 
> 
>                       Thanks for that Mich�le!! 
> 
>                       Bob 
> 
>                       > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
>                       > Van: Neil Hobson [
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] 
>                       > Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 
>                       > Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
>                       > Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
>                       > 
>                       > 
>                       > IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. 
>                       > 
>                       > AFAIK, this is the best site for this: 
>                       > 
>                       > <http://www.acronymfinder.com> 
>                       > 
>                       > Neil 
>                       > 
>                       > -----Original Message----- 
>                       > From: Bob t. Berge [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] 
>                       > Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 
>                       > Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List 
>                       > Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
>                       > Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
>                       > 
>                       > 
>                       > First of all my appologies for not understanding
> what IIRC means. 
>                       > Second, I've been through every option in Antigen
> and i canNOT find 
>                       > ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO
> have that option 
>                       > then please be so kind and enlighten me. 
>                       > 
>                       > Thank you very much in advance, 
>                       > 
>                       > Bob 
>                       > 
>                       > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
>                       > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] 
>                       > > Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 
>                       > > Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
>                       > > Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
>                       > > 
>                       > > 
>                       > > IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the
> contents of zip files. 
>                       > > 
>                       > > -Mich�le 
>                       > > Immigration site:  <
> <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>> 
>                       > > The Miata:  <
> <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>> 
>                       > > Tiggercam:  < <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>> 
>                       > >
> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>                       > > "The one function that TV news performs very
> well is that when there 
>                       > > is no news, we give it to you with the same
> emphasis as if there 
>                       > > were." -David 
>                       > > Brinkley 
>                       > >
> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>                       > > 
>                       > > 
>                       > > -----Original Message----- 
>                       > > From: Bob t. Berge [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] 
>                       > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM 
>                       > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
>                       > > Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
>                       > > 
>                       > > 
>                       > > Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2
> applications. 
>                       > >  
>                       > > I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail
> on another (yes i got 
>                       > > it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). 
>                       > > From what i've seen so far, neither one has the
> ability to block *.* 
>                       > > except *.zip, for example. You have the choice
> to either block ALL 
>                       > > attachments without exception, or block only the
> files with the 
>                       > > extensions you provide. A point extra goes to
> Antigen for not just 
>                       > > looking at the extension but also checking the
> file's 
>                       > headers to make 
>                       > > sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe. 
>                       > > But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option
> to set how deep 
>                       > > compressed files should be checked for filtered
> extensions, 
>                       > hence give 
>                       > > you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike
> Antigen, which 
>                       > > removes the 
>                       > > filtered extensions from compressed files also. 
>                       > >  
>                       > > The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be
> thorough and good. 
>                       > >  
>                       > > I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of
> Antigen on our main Ex2k 
>                       > > server though, Antigen is good but i am missing
> a few features that 
>                       > > ScanMail does have. 
>                       > >  
>                       > > Well I just wanted to let you all know what I
> think about 
>                       > em, do what 
>                       > > you want to do with the info ;) 
>                       > >  
>                       > > Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably
> Palm (I think it's 
>                       > > Belgian). 
>                       > >  
>                       > > Greets, 
>                       > >  
>                       > > Bob 
>                       > >  
>                       > >  
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