Again, if we are talking about the same instance.... He did as you suggested for a couple of years. Turned down the service and the fqdn for the RBL, but after several years of that they kept hammering him. The DNS lookups alone on the old RBL fqdn/zone were a real pain for him. It was a massive number and he wanted to continue to use the domain without having to support the DNS infastructure for admins too lazy to turn off their lookups.
He did not 'deny' mail flow to any users. The Administrators that were using a long defunct RBL denied their users mail flow. Please put the blame where it belongs. > -----Original Message----- > From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:00 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: spam listing > > Then why not just take down the service which **should** have returned > invalid queries to the companies that didn't pay attention. Why flip > the > flag to "deny" shut down mail flow to a lot of users? > > > John H. Matteson, Jr. > Systems Administrator/ITT Systems > Forward Operating Base Orgun-E > Afghanistan > DSN - 318 431 8001 > VoSIP - (308) 431 - 0000 > Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823 > Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832 > > "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes > here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, > he > shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an > outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or > birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's > becoming > in every facet an American, and nothing but an American... There can be > no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but > something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one > flag, the American flag.. We have room for but one language here, and > that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole > loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." > > Teddy Roosevelt; 1907 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:59 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: spam listing > > That wasn't vigilantism, that was self defense. If we are talking about > the same situation the RBL had been shut down for a long time, several > years. The owner posted and posted 'Stop using our RBL'. Finally he > grew > tired of no one paying attention...... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:05 AM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: spam listing > > > > Didn't a dose of RBL vigilantism just hit a month or two ago when > some > > > list decided to set everything to "deny" and caused havoc on the net > > for a week or so? > > > > > > John H. Matteson, Jr. > > Systems Administrator/ITT Systems > > Forward Operating Base Orgun-E > > Afghanistan > > DSN - 318 431 8001 > > VoSIP - (308) 431 - 0000 > > Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823 > > Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:32 AM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: spam listing > > > > I think the RBL vigilantism is diminished nowadays though. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:18 PM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: spam listing > > > > It's too bad that some black hole list administrators get too full of > > their own self inflated self importance and cause havoc on the net > for > > > their own selfish ends. > > > > > > John H. Matteson, Jr. > > Systems Administrator/ITT Systems > > Forward Operating Base Orgun-E > > Afghanistan > > DSN - 318 431 8001 > > VoSIP - (308) 431 - 0000 > > Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823 > > Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832 > > > > "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes > > here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, > > he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it > is > > > an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or > > birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's > > becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American... > > There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an > > American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have > > room for but one flag, the American flag.. We have room for but one > > language here, and that is the English language... and we have room > > for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American > > people." > > > > Teddy Roosevelt; 1907 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:39 PM > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: spam listing > > > > There are a number of ISPs in New England that use private DNSBLs, > and > > > list servers based on their own criteria and complaints by their own > > users. > > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Steve Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I just checked, using www.mxtoolbox.com, and your domain does not > > > appear on any popular spam lists. As was mentioned before, where > are > > > > the e-mails stating you are on an RBL coming from? > > > > > > > > > > > > \\Steve// > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:40 AM > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > Subject: spam listing > > > > > > > > > > > > So, I arrive this morning, and I see all these emails stating we > are > > > > on a RBL list, I scan the server and run manual scans on all > systems > > > > and cannot find any type of Trojan or bot resing on the network. > > > > > > > > > > > > Our environment is os win 2k3 sp1, exchange 2k3 sp2 and all ws's > > > have office 2007, with SAV 10.2 running on the clients and at the > > > server levels and the email server has Ninja. > > > > > > > > ~ > > > > > > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~
