The permissions issue is an FAQ. We see it all the time.

The Outlook Anywhere issue is an FAQ as well, somewhat less common.

I'd love to have you open a case on the outlook redirection issue. NORMALLY,
this is a name resolution problem; but if WINS and DNS are solid, then that
is a pretty rare issue. If you've already fixed it, well, I can't blame you.

The last 3 comments: yeah, well, IIWII (It Is What It Is). Whether I agree
with it or not, it's what we have today.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Update: Exchange on VM

Hiya john. Very interesting reading and hearing how other transitions have
gone. Although not on a VM, I went through one from 5.5 a few months ago and
had similar experiences.

We had inherited permissions problem too. I was having that discussion with
someone outside just yesterday, that also had the same issue. They think the
link for that was membership in some built in security groups.

On ADUC, we deployed tools from the 32 bit install (still available on the
MS site) to get ADUC to work.

I've got about the same mailbox count that you mention. I may have to try
VMing some of the other roles.

Sent from my hand held...

-----Original Message-----
From: "John Hornbuckle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[email protected]>
Sent: 8/14/08 5:39 PM
Subject: Update: Exchange on VM


I just wanted to update everyone on our Exchange migration, since I had
mentioned here what we were doing. Maybe it will help some of you if you
have to go down the same road as us in the future.

Our old server was Exchange 2003 on a Server 2003 32-bit box. A bit over 500
mailboxes, around 40 GB of mail.

New server is Exchange 2007 on Server 2008 64-bit Hyper-V VM. We have two
VMs--one for Edge and one for Hub Transport, Client Access, and Mailbox.
Both are on the same physical machine.

For the most part, things worked well--creating the new servers and
migrating the mailboxes went smoothly. We ran into a couple of little bumps
in the road that had me pulling my hair out after that, but things could've
been much worse. The engineers (from an outside company) that worked with me
on the move were pretty knowledgeable, although Hyper-V was a bit new to
them and one of them was much more knowledgeable about Exchange 2003 than
2007. They did have to engage Microsoft engineers at one stage, and between
MS, the outside engineers, and me there were times when there were half a
dozen of us on a conference call working on problems at one time.

Exchange 2007 seems to work fine in a Hyper-V VM. Granted, we're a smallish
organization and we've been running it for less than a week, but
still--things look fine.

Some gotchas we came across:

* A number of our users aren't configured in ADUC to inherit permissions
(which apparently users normally would be). For some, this created an issue
where they couldn't log into OWA. For others, it created no problems
whatsoever.

* We had to configure Outlook Anywhere to use plain text instead of NTLM
(although we're using SSL, so plain text is still secure). Although NTLM is
the preferred method per MS, for some reason when we had it selected our
users were being repeatedly prompted to enter their credentials in
Outlook--but it would never accept them and would keep asking over and over
again. What's even weirder is that this was happening ON OUR NETWORK, where
Outlook Anywhere really shouldn't be in use. This confused MS, the outside
engineers, and me. This problem--which also prevented Free/Busy and the Out
of Office Assistant from working--only affected Outlook 2007 clients, not
2003.

* Outlook redirected itself to the new server fine for most of my users, but
for around 10% - 15 % it didn't. For them, we've had to delete and recreate
their Outlook profile on their machine. Not a hard fix, but kind of a pain
to run around and do. We have not determined a pattern as to which machines
redirected and which didn't. It appears to affect both Outlook 2007 on Vista
and 2003 on XP.

* Having to use the Exchange Management Console to do things you used to be
able to do directly in Active Directory Users & Computers is a pain and just
plain stupid. I don't know what Microsoft was thinking there.

* The Exchange Management Shell is great, although there are some tasks that
have to be done there that I think would be easier from a GUI.

* It seems weird to me that the purpose of the Edge server role is to
protect your other servers/roles from the Internet, yet OWA, ActiveSync,
etc. don't run at the Edge level. So your CA/Mailbox/Hub servers still have
to be exposed to the outside, even if you have an Edge server.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us




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