Sorry Don, meant Profiles...
But again, once you setup Exchange the EAS is basically done and you can
have a WM device setup in minutes.  Not saying Blackberry is bad, I like the
BES...however it takes a little time to setup and then again  you need to
visit it again each time to add a user.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Don Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> We have a couple thousand BBs and a couple of dozen test EAS WM devices
> (despite policies to the contrary - guess some management folks are more
> equal than others).
>
> We find (possibly due to lack of familiarity) just the opposite.  Lots of
> tech and handholding to get EAS working (non-technical user community) and
> our user admins have the BES user admin role and can simply point and click
> to add users and set activation password. (No idea what profile Steve is
> referring to)
>
> Unless you are wide open as far as exchange server access and globally
> allow ANY user to attempt to connect their personal phone, you will have to
> specifically allow (or stop disallowing) each new user.
>
> The EAS comments are second hand so they may be a bit overstated.
>
> ---------------------------------
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Ens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue Sep 23 15:30:12 2008
> Subject: Re: ActiveSync Set Up Veterans-GOING OT
>
> I use them both too...less admin with the EAS...no adding users, assigning
> profiles, etc...
>
>
>  On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
>        I have both ActiveSync & BES, personally, I prefer BES, but have no
> real issues w/EAS.
>
>
>        On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:16 PM, wjh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>                So, do people really like Activesync?  Or is that free beats
> clunky?  Connectivity and management through BB or Good seems so much
> easier.  We use Good on our WM devices and the interface is so much better.
>  Tasks and notes work fine, plus no certificate hoops to jump through.
>
>                Bill
>
>                mqcarp wrote:
>
>                        I think I have it. I do note that the server setting
> is very misleading. I ended up using the direct server address ie
> mail.domain.com instead of the direct OMA address like many documents
> online suggest ie mail.domain.com/oma
>
>                        I never could get it to work manually configuring
> the device, but did get it to work with the config utility (I use the web
> version). I think that portion is due to the certificate validation being
> included in the config.
>
>                        That said so far only portions of the contacts, no
> calendar, and only folder structure is coming across at this point. At least
> we are getting somewhere!
>
>
>                        On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:44 PM, mqcarp <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>                                Thank you for sharing Sherry. I still have a
> few quirks going on so I will keep testing. A dumb mistake was not including
> the domain name ahead of the user name! I have a feeling this may not suit
> our CEO either, as I keep reading about some limitations. Will see.
>
>
>                                On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Sherry
> Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.techsack.com/2008/08/19/getting-your-iphone-to-work-with-exchange-active-sync-ssl-certificate/
>
>
>                                        On 9/23/08, mqcarp <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>                                        Interesting, well OMA works fine now
> both internally and externally, however ActiveSync will not. This is on an
> iPhone. Still reviewing
>
>
>
>                                        On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:53 AM,
> mqcarp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>                                        I got it worked out but it is
> excruciatingly slow. Very odd. I will have to look at this. Thanks all
>
>
>                                        On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:05 AM,
> Michael B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>                                        I did this the first time, long ago
> and far away. It's just part of the process now…here were my comments the
> first time I had to do it:
>
>
>
>
> http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/oma-amp-activesync-after-configuring-rpc-https-and-forms-based-authentication.aspx
>
>
>
>                                        Regards,
>
>
>
>                                        Michael B. Smith,
> MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
>
>                                        My blog:
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael<http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael>
>
>                                        Link with me at:
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
>
>
>
>                                        From: mqcarp [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                                        Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008
> 8:48 AM
>
>                                        To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>                                        Subject: Re: ActiveSync Set Up
> Veterans
>
>
>
>                                        Do you happen to use a front end
> Exchange server? We do not, and have come across a problem. In reading about
> the solution on MS site, this seems odd and insecure. Has anyone had to
> implement this fix?
>
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817379/EN-US/
>
>
>
>
>                                        On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:03 PM,
> Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>                                        I have ISA in my environment, but it
> is not a part of the OWA/ActiveSync setup.  I have a reverse proxy setup at
> my colo that is used for both OWA and ActiveSync.
>
>
>
>                                        On 9/22/08, mqcarp <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>                                        Sherry are you using ISA in your
> environment?
>
>
>
>                                        On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:15 PM,
> Michael B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>                                        The below was current as of the
> release of Exchange Server 2003 sp2. Not sure if the attribute has
> additional documented values in Exchange 2007.
>
>
>
>                                        You can also make the change
> globally easily using PowerShell or a tool like ADModify.Net.
>
>
>
>                                        The final Exchange specific tab is
> Exchange Features, shown in Figure 9-9. The Mobile Services entries allow
> you to control, on a per-user basis, the mobile capabilities of Exchange. If
> you, by default, enable mobile services at the global level (Global
> Settings(R)Mobile Services(R)Properties(R)General) then this window allows 
> you to
> disable the capabilities at the per-user level. Using the script made
> available in Microsoft KB 830188 (How to grant permission to use Outlook
> Mobile Access to specific users of Exchange Server 2003), you can globally
> disable all users and then pick and choose which specific users are to be
> allowed access to mobile service capabilities.
>
>
>
>                                        The per-user AD attribute that
> controls these functions is named msExchOmaAdminWirelessEnable. If this
> attribute has a value of zero or the attribute is not present, then all
> mobile services are enabled. If Outlook Mobile Access (OMA) is disabled, but
> the other two features are enabled, then the attribute has a value of two
> (2). The other two items control specific features associated with Exchange
> ActiveSync (EAS).  "User Initiated Synchronization" must be enabled for
> Up-to-date Notifications to be enabled; however Up-to-date Notifications may
> be disabled on its own. If only Up-to-date Notifications is disabled, then
> msExchOmaAdminWirelessEnable has a value of one (1). If both User Initiated
> Synchronization and Up-to-date Notifications are disabled, then
> msExchOmaAdminWirelessEnable has a value of five (5). If all three Mobile
> Services are disabled, then msExchOmaAdminWirelessEnable has a value of
> seven (7).
>
>
>
>                                        If you search the Internet, you will
> find that other values can be specified for this attribute. However, the
> values described in the prior paragraph are the only values which Microsoft
> has documented. You are better off only using these values.
>
>
>
>
>
>                                        Regards,
>
>
>
>                                        Michael B. Smith,
> MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
>
>                                        My blog:
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael<http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael>
>
>                                        Link with me at:
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
>
>
>
>                                        From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                                        Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008
> 12:55 PM
>                                        To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>                                        Subject: Re: ActiveSync Set Up
> Veterans
>
>
>
>                                        The Exchange Features tab in AD for
> each account is the place to enable or disable additional Exchange features
> such as mobile and OWA.  All these features are enabled by default and you
> will have to disable them.  When we recently went through the process to
> setup OWA and ActiveSync, I had to manually disable everyone except those
> that had the proper approval for mobile and/or OWA.  Check with your HR
> department because there are legal things to consider with employees
> checking or receiving email during non-business hours.
>
>                                        In your IIS settings for ActiveSync
> you can set it to require SSL and I wouldn't recommend setting it up any
> other way.  No SSL means that you're network credentials are being sent
> clear text.......very bad idea.
>
>                                        Haven't had need to do any looking
> at logging for auditing at this point so I can't address that.
>
>                                        On 9/22/08, mqcarp <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>                                        Just have a few questions if some of
> you are using this feature. It seems frighteningly easy to set up on the
> server side and I want to ensure that the settings are secure. Here are a
> few observations for you vets on this:
>
>                                        * The settings are activated for ALL
> users when it is enabled. Is it possible to disable it by default and enable
> specific users in AD?
>                                        * Is there a log setting to enable
> for reviewing audit processes for pushes and troubleshooting in Exchange?
>                                        * For iPhones, I have noticed that
> the config utility can require a certificate for the server side push set
> up, but if you set up a device manually, it will accept the connection
> without this validation. Can this be set to be required to avoid connections
> this way?
>
>                                        This is on Exch 2003.
>
>                                        TIA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                                        --
>                                        Sherry Abercrombie
>
>                                        "Any sufficiently advanced
> technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>                                        Arthur C. Clarke
>
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>                                        --
>                                        Sherry Abercrombie
>
>                                        "Any sufficiently advanced
> technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>                                        Arthur C. Clarke
>
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>                                        --
>                                        Sherry Abercrombie
>
>                                        "Any sufficiently advanced
> technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>                                        Arthur C. Clarke
>
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>
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>        --
>        Sherry Abercrombie
>
>        "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
> magic."
>        Arthur C. Clarke
>
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