Never trust a Lawyer.........

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell     (352) 215-6944
Fax     (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Beahm, Keith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: System says user has 250MB in sent folder

We are a law firm, and what the attorney's deem necessary to facilitate their 
clients cases ... :)

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: System says user has 250MB in sent folder

That is huge. I try to tell my users to keep it under 10 MB as a lot of mail 
servers will reject large attachments.  At least that has been my experience in 
the past.  I'm sure that you have your needs for such a large limit.

From: Beahm, Keith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: System says user has 250MB in sent folder

The quotas max for send at 250MB, but we operate in cached mode by GPO.  The 
user sent the item and because of slow network connection combined with cached 
mode behavior the issue started it's spiral.  Initially the user mailbox (in 
Outlook) didn't initially show the single sent item because it was that slow to 
sync.

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: System says user has 250MB in sent folder

Holy cow, a 250MB attachment???  You said you were using quotas.  What are they 
set at?

From: Beahm, Keith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: System says user has 250MB in sent folder

The issue is resolved.  I am ashamed to say I was duped by the user, and 
overlooked the single item in their sent items (it had a 250MB attachment).  I 
foolishly believed the user when they told me they just got behind in cleaning 
up their old sent items.

All my bad, and I apologize for wasting everyone's time.

From: Dahl, Peter [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: System says user has 250MB in sent folder

Maybe an item that was not a message was inadvertently dragged to the sent 
items folder.  Since it is not a message type the outlook view may not show it. 
 Try an 'Advanced Find' search with outlook for 'Any type of Outlook item' set 
the size to greater than 100 MB and see if it finds anything that is hidden 
from the default view configuration.


From: Beahm, Keith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: System says user has 250MB in sent folder

It's odd, this user did have the POP3 and IMAP4 protocols enabled.  I have 
disabled them and will try some tests including a move.

From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: System says user has 250MB in sent folder

Are you using IMAP for this account??? I seem to remember something about sent 
items being able to be saved on the IMAP server itself instead of the local 
sent items....just a thought.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell     (352) 215-6944
Fax     (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Beahm, Keith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: System says user has 250MB in sent folder

I have moved the account between three different mail store DBs now.  I was 
hoping for the same result, but nothing changed.

From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: System says user has 250MB in sent folder

Do you have another mail store you could move the mailbox to, and tell it to 
skip corrupted items during the move?

________________________________
From: Beahm, Keith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: System says user has 250MB in sent folder

I have a user whose mailbox reports 250 MB in their Sent items, but there are 
no items visible in the Outlook 2007 client.  The Exchange 2007 mailbox server 
(via properties of the user) confirms that the user has a total mailbox size 
that would confirm the 250MB in Sent items.  I have moved the mailbox 
successfully between DBs (so it can't be a corrupt item issue), and I have also 
deleted all local OST and OAB files at the client.  Nothing seems to clear the 
"ghost" sent items, and we impose mailbox quotas in our environment ... so this 
is an issue.

Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.



Keith D. Beahm
Network Engineer

Stinson Morrison Hecker LLP
1201 Walnut Street, Suite 2900
Kansas City, MO 64106-2150
Direct: (816) 691-3374
Fax: (816) 412-1022

[email protected]

www.stinson.com<http://www.stinson.com/>


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